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Same case as Commons:Deletion requests/File:Peng Dehuai (1948).png and others: Mistakenly deleted because of alledged URAA restoration: All of those were made before 1991 (and most of it, before 1949) so it must had felt under the 著作權法 (民國33年) [Copyright Law of the Republic of China (1944)]:
Photographs and Sound Recordings were protected for 10 years after publication. That means copyright must had expired before URAA could restore anything.
Wait. Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/China, The People's Republic of China government does not recognise the legitimacy of the Republic of China, and Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China is retroactive. Therefore laws of the ROC is not relevant and TaronjaSatsuma's claim is most likely incorrect. Pinging @Teetrition for input. Wcam (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2026 (UTC)reply
I agree with Wcam. For works created in mainland China after October 1949, ROC law is no longer applicable; instead, the PRC Copyright Law (1990) should be applied because of its retroactivity. Teetrition (talk) 09:29, 19 March 2026 (UTC)reply
Article 17 of the Common Program of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference formally abolished all laws, decrees, and the judicial system of the "Kuomintang reactionary government" (the ROC government). While the text includes the qualifier "which oppress the people," this should not be interpreted as allowing certain ROC laws to remain valid.
In fact, this article constitutes a total repeal of the ROC legal system. This interpretation is supported by the Directive on the Abolition of the Kuomintang's Complete Book of Six Codes, which explicitly categorized the "Six Codes" (the entire ROC legal corpus) as inherently oppressive. Therefore, no ROC statutes survived the transition to the PRC's legal jurisdiction.
From another perspective, if ROC copyright law had remained valid in mainland China from 1949 to 1990, there would have been no need for the PRC Copyright Law to include provisions regarding its retroactivity. The very existence of such retroactive mechanisms implies a legal vacuum, rather than a continuation of ROC law. Teetrition (talk) 12:58, 19 March 2026 (UTC)reply
（六）请你们与政府及司法干部讨论我们这些意见，并把讨论结果报告我们。
I don't believe the Directive can give us any clue about this, considering it's not even a law.
For the post-October 1949 Mainland scenario, the question is "when" did the RoC law expire.
Is the expiration date the proclamation of the PRC in 1949?
Is the expiration date the creation of a Constitution in 1954 (it's 1954?)
Given the non-existence of any copyright law until 1996, was the RoC law the one to consider prior to 1991 (even if 1991 was retroactive)? NOTE: under international law, copyright should never be considered non-existent
Can we agree that at least any work created before 30th September 1949 is under RoC law?
That's why I asked for any court ruling anything on this regard, to have some kind of guidance (I hate when Commons users became judges on Copyright issues, which I believe happens sometimes here) TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 21:07, 19 March 2026 (UTC)reply
1st October 1949 is the proclamation of the PRC, but the PRC did not have a constitution of its own until 1954. Which date should we take? there is any court ruling anything on this regard? TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 11:16, 19 March 2026 (UTC)reply
Spain have had several regime changes by 1987, and still they used the same XIX century copyright law under all of those different regimes.
Current copyright law in Iran is from the Sha's time.
RoC copyright law the last copyright law in China in the 1950s-1980s. They don't having any kind of copyirght protection or recognition is not an issue of changing the laws, but because of their very specific understanding of Communism. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2026 (UTC) Indeed, 1950 Conference resolution and 1984 regulations are considered to be valid texts and seminal to copyright in China.--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 17:33, 20 March 2026 (UTC)reply
I found some legal base under PRC law:
1950 Publishing Conference Resolution is considered the first legal work where copyright is mentioned (there was an administrative recognition of copyright as something which exists, but there is no term)
1994广电部 608号文 confirms 1950 as the strating point of copyright in China (for films) it states:
现对1949年10月1日至1993年6月30日期间国产电影发行权归属问题作出以下规定
October 1, 1949 (the date of the PRC's founding) is the starting point. Films from this date forward are treated as having 版权 (copyright) from the beginning, and they're considered to have copyright because they had distribution rights (1950 Resolution, which was for books).
There a alot of nuances on this law, but at least we can consider 1st October as a safe date for under RoC laws works.
1984 Trial Regulations on the Protection of Book and Periodical Copyright
Just as the (previous discussion on Chinese copyright laws, where the proposal of the RoC-Registered template was born, I believe we've reached a flaw on Commons guidelines. And probably it's not exclusive of China: because of the URAA restoration policy (Can I advocate for fully deprecate it?), we have policies and guidelines based on current laws, but, de facto, for Commons is 1996 law what is relevant.
In real world, the distinction between 1944 RoC law, 1985 RoC-Taiwan law and 1991 PRC law would be irrelevant, because any work post 1975 is PD under all three laws, making them reduncdant. But because of URAA, in Commons we should look at laws as they were, not as they are.
Article 11: The rights provided in Items (1), (2), (3) and (4) of Article 5 of these Regulations are enjoyed by authors for their entire life. After an author passes away, the lawful successor of the author or the Ministry of Culture Publications Undertakings Management Bureau protects them from infringements.
The rights provided in Items (5) and (6) of these Regulations, are limited to the lifetime of the author and thirty years after his death. These thirty years are to be calculated from the end of the year of death of the author; concerning joint works, these thirty years are to be calculated from the end of the year of death of the last passing away author.
Concerning photographs, the rights provided in Items (5) and (6) of these Regulations, are limited to thirty years, so be calculated from the end of the year of first publication.
Concerning works of which the copyright belongs to bodies, collectives, industrial or undertaking work units or other work units and collective, the rights provided in Items (5) and (6) of these Regulations, are limited to thirty years, so be calculated from the end of the year of first publication.
The rights provided in Items (5) and (6) of these Regulations, after the author passes away, will be inherited according to relevant inheritance legislation.
Concerning works already published before these Regulations take effect, of all those that did not yet exceed the periods of the second, third and fourth paragraph of this Article, the copyright holder still enjoys copyright over the remainder of the time period.
So, between 1949 and June 1991 the valid normative was 30 years after publishing/death or author, and the law was only partially retroactive, in the sense it guaranteed 30 years term for works created after 1949, but did not restore any copyright for works having its natural term of 30 expired by then.
Our guidelines in Commons apply 1991 law as a whole because, in a non-URAA world, any of the Chinese laws is irrelevant because anything older than 1975 is PD. But in the URAA world we created in Commons, older copyright laws matter.
What does Chinese 1990-91 copyright law say about restoring copyirght?
Article 59:
This means the works falling in PD under the 1984 directive by June 1991 did not have its copyright restored.
Here there is an authoritative legal commentary on the 1990 Copyright Law with specific examples.
Which also aligns with Berne 18(2): A work that has fallen into the public domain in its source country through the expiry of a previously granted term shall not be protected anew.
And aligns with URAA (17 U.S.C. § 104A): restoration applies only to works that entered the public domain due to lack of formalities or lack of treaty relations, not to works that entered the public domain because their copyright term expired.
And the 1984 Regulations granted 30 years terms, not 50. So, Works in PRC created (or whose author died) between 1st October 1949 and 31 December 1960 (maybe 31 May 1961) were PD by the 1991 law (and therefore, had its copyright expired by URAA time).--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 13:22, 20 March 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose because the s:Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (1990) was retroactive and we cannot say that it didn't apply to works created before 1949. The first point follows from the plain meaning of Chapter VI, Article 55, which says that protection is granted to any qualifying work whose "term of protection as specified in this Law [my emphasis] has not yet expired on the date of entry into force of this Law." The second point follows because to say otherwise would be to deny—a la {{PD-RusEmpire}}—that the People's Republic of China is the legal successor to the Republic of China (1912–1949), something that I don't think we have the power to do. prospectprospekt (talk) 22:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC)reply
The second point follows because to say otherwise would be to deny—a la {{PD-RusEmpire}}—that the People's Republic of China is the legal successor to the Republic of China (1912–1949), something that I don't think we have the power to do
This is your interpretation, not the Courts one. The second point follows, and clearly states "the policies and provisions" (notice it does not say law, it does not refer to RoC law, but to 1984 directive and 1950 Publishing resolution) are the ones to follow for anything happening before the 1991 law. The article has two full paragraphs, You cannot read paragraph 1 in isolation. Whatever the Russian Empire template says or the Russian law said is not only irrelevant, but offtopic to this issue.
You cannot apply the first paragraph retroactively to revive works that had already entered the public domain under the 1984 rules, it contradicts the very 1984 rules (article 11), Berne 18(2) and URAA (17 U.S.C. § 104A). Indeed, when Russia entered WIPO in 1995 they did it with a public reservation to article 18. They did it because Russian authorities understood that Article 18(2) prohibits reviving works whose term already expired. This is an international treaty, at the end Russia had to accept it. If China had intended to revive works that already fell into the public domain under the 1984 regulations, it would have needed to make a similar declaration or reservation—which it did not.
If a Chinese work's 30-year term under the 1984 regulations expired before June 1, 1991. (Any infringements of copyright and the copyright-related rights or breaches of contract committed prior to the entry into force of 1991 law shall be dealt with under the relevant regulations or policies in force at the time when the act was committed.)
The 1991 law did not revive it (Berne Article 18(2); China Article 59(2))
Therefore, the URAA cannot restore US copyright for that work
@TaronjaSatsuma: The 1991 Copyright Law did, in fact, restore protection to works that had "expired" under the 1984 Trial Regulations. The NPC's official interpretation specifically uses the 1984 Regulations as an example of how the 1991 Law's "life plus 50 years" term overrides the previous "life plus 30 years" term.
比如，1984年文化部颁布的《图书、期刊版权保护试行条例》，规定著作、译作的作者享有的使用权和获得报酬权的保护期为作者终身及其死亡后三十年。假如某翻译者是1950年去世的，按照文化部的条例，该译作的翻译者不再享有使用权和获得报酬权，但依照著作权法，该译作的翻译者仍然享有使用权和获得报酬权。因为著作权法规定，公民的作品，其使用权和获得报酬权的保护期为作者终生及其死亡后五十年，到1991年6月1日，权利的保护期尚未届满。Translation: For example, the 1984 Regulations stipulated that the term of protection... shall last for the author's lifetime plus 30 years. If a translator died in 1950, they would no longer enjoy these rights under the Ministry of Culture's 1984 Regulations. However, per the 1991 Copyright Law, the translator still enjoys these rights, because the new law extended the term to life plus 50 years, and as of June 1, 1991, this new term had not yet expired by June 1, 1991.
Additionally, Berne 18(2) is inapplicable here because the PRC was not a party to the Berne Convention until 15 October 1992, over a year after the 1991 Law established these protections domestically. Therefore, the domestic restoration of these rights in 1991 did not conflict with any international treaty obligations at that time. Teetrition (talk) 10:36, 7 April 2026 (UTC)reply
Furthermore, the 1984 Regulations were highly restrictive in scope. Per Article 2, protection was only extended to works "lawfully published by Chinese publishing entities." (我国公民创作的文学、艺术和科学作品，由国家出版单位印制成图书出版或在期刊上发表，其作者依本条例享有版权。) This means many works that did not meet these specific administrative requirements might not have been covered by the 1984 Regulations at all. In such cases, or where the publication status under the 1984 criteria is unclear, we should follow COM:PRE and apply the "life plus 50 years" term as established by the 1991 Law. It would be an enormous evidentiary burden to prove a work was "lawfully published" under the 1984 administrative standards just to argue for a shorter, expired term. Teetrition (talk) 10:53, 7 April 2026 (UTC)reply
I'll check everything once I have the time to do so, but it is no be so difficult to prove a work was "lawfully published" under the 1984 administrative standards: pre-1978 works were basically made always by state owned corporations, so: films by Changchun, Shanghai, Bayi, etc; works published by the publishing house making Renmin Ribao, Renmin Huabao, etc; books published by University publishing houses or Sanlian/Joint Publishing (Mainland branch), CCTN/Peking TV and Radio Peking, and many others were obviously "lawfully published" (they were state-owned corporate works). And the facto, any works PD by 1991/1996 would have been published by a state-owned corporation. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 18:48, 7 April 2026 (UTC)reply
Republic of China works are not protected under Berne. The People's Republic of China's works are protected under Berne, so for non-WTO countries, mainland Chinese works will only be protected as PRC works. As the PRC claims to be the only successor to the Chinese government of the 1940s, and is formally recognized by virtually all nations, it seems wisest to accept their claim for mainland Chinese works and restrict using the ROC rules to works of Taiwan, which they have an actual physical claim over.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:57, 25 May 2026 (UTC)reply
@Prosfilaes Republic of China works are not protected under Berne?! What I've touched from zh.wikisource is that they really can be protected under Berne (though however the URAA date for that isn't 1 Jan 1996, but 1 Jan 2002). ~2026-38847-11 (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2026 (UTC)reply
A lot of works can be protected under Berne for various reasons, but the Republic of China is not a signer of the Berne Convention, because PRC. The Republic of China is a WTO member, as of 2002, which is why they have a URAA date, which will protect them in most of the world.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:59, 9 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Request for Correction of Incorrect Undeletions
The following two cases were incorrectly undeleted. They are Hong Kong and Taiwan works that have nothing to do with the current debate whether the current PRC law is retroactive, and should remain deleted per their original DRs:
This photograph was taken in Hong Kong in 1947 and, under the then-applicable British copyright law, a published photograph was protected for 50 years from publication (expiring in 1997); it was still under copyright in its origin (Hong Kong) on the URAA restoration date of January 1, 1996, meaning its U.S. copyright was restored under URAA.
Creator Chen Jing-hui died in 1968, and Taiwan's copyright term extends 50 years post-mortem; his works were still under copyright in their source country on January 1, 2002 (the URAA restoration date for Taiwan), which caused the U.S. copyright to be restored under URAA.
Yet another uncontested speedy deletion of a 91-year old Chinese work. Proposed by Prospectprospekt and deleted by Túrelio under the grounds of "previous consensus": Commons:Deletion requests/File:Scenes of City Life (1935).webm.
The film is in PD under both 1944 RoC copyright law and current 1991 PRC copyright law (50 years had passed by 1991, according to article then 59, now 66).
Previous consensus:
Mickey Mouse appears 21 minutes in. Undelete on January 1, 2024 (It was deleted on 25 December 2023). AFAIK, Mickey Mouse is already PD in the US.
OpposeTaronjaSatsuma does not seem to understand that copyright lasts a very long time. A 91 year old work can easily have a copyright that lasts another thirty years, although that does not seem to be quite the case here. According to the DR, Whistling in the Dark has a 1931 copyright which was renewed, so it will have a US copyright until 1/1/2027.
I think that in order to restore this, (a) we must wait until 1/1/2027 for the Whistling in the Dark copyright to expire and find out which Mickey Mouse movie this is. He is wearing white gloves, so it is 1929 or later. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:38, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Cartoon character at 21st minute of the film.First, @Jameslwoodward: I'd would be very grateful if you abstain of insulting fellow Wikimedians. I've never insulted anyone, AFAIK, and I don't deserve to be mistreated because I have a different point of view than yours.
Secondly, and unless I've missed something in the film, there is no Mickey Mouse at all in this film. There is a cartoony dog character, but this is no Mickey Mouse by any means (and thus, the first deletion was made with mistaken reasons).
About Whistling in the Dark, assuming it's true the reigstry of the very specific version displayed is from 1931, at least I'd be grateful if someone adds "Undelete in 2027" on the file, so it can be used in seven months. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 16:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
I probably could have phrased my comment better, for which I apologize, but, TaronjaSatsuma, you mention both "a 91-year old Chinese work" and "95-year old songs" in a way that strongly suggests to me that you believe those are reasons for the work to be PD. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:05, 13 May 2026 (UTC)reply
You're welcome, everything fine on my side.
About the lenghth: yes. The movie itself would have fallen into PD 30 years after being released under 1928 RoC law for corporate works (in 1944 law, the movie itself was PD by 10 years lenghth), and under PRC law it is not only PD, but the separate rights are ineligible when airing the movie itself as it was released -and still, corporate work: 30 years length. Copyright in RoC was about registration, so no separated regustry for a script or a musical score to be expected.
The song is messy (because it was not a Chinese work) but still: 95 years old (if the term is 100, then it's 100), but you can see how a discussion about the file is correcting some false conclusions of the first deletion proposal, such as the so-called Mickey. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 20:26, 15 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment The character is not Mickey Mouse - multiple animation studios in the era had characters with vaguely similar appearance, including some that predated Mikey - so that should not be a factor. However if the audio was US recordings, they would not yet be PD per Commons:Hirtle_chart#Sound_recordings as the term is 100 years, which has not yet passed. -- 19:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
But after hearing both versions, I have my doubts: the song as played in the movie (around minute 61) has whistling during the whole play, and also much more harder trumpets. The voice sounds clearly American, but I'm unsure about it being the specific recorded version (at least the one I linked). TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 21:09, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Also, I asked Deepseek about this issue (it was about 1990 PRC law, but the reasoning is the same):
The core of your question lies in a key provision of Chinese copyright law. As we discussed, Article 15 (now Article 17 in the 2020 revision) grants a "separate use" right to the creators of a film's components:
"The authors of the script, musical works and other works that are included in a cinematographic work... and can be exploited separately shall be entitled to exercise their copyright independently."
The crucial, legally defined meaning of "separate use" is using the component work completely on its own, detached from the film.
"Separate use" includes:
Publishing the film's script as a standalone book.
Releasing the film's soundtrack on a CD or streaming service.
Licensing the main theme song for a commercial
"Separate use" does NOT include: Broadcasting the film in its entirety on television, as a cinema screening, or on a streaming platform. In these cases, the music is being used as an inseparable part of the audiovisual work, not as an independent element.
Support, with at most the Maine Stein and Whistling song muted (and all other American sound recordings made before 1926 present in-film, if any). As a side note, the PD-recording template says that audio in films does not have to be muted. Does that apply to the use of recordings? CitationsFreak (talk) 22:00, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure why sound on a disc record and sound on a film strip would be subject to different rules, but I have no objection to undeletion in whole if the US audio copyright is as stated. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
In the US, movie audio was part of the movie from the start, but recordings on a disc record weren't copyrightable until 1972.--Prosfilaes (talk) 10:20, 13 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Still, "Separate use" does NOT include: Broadcasting the film in its entirety on television, as a cinema screening, or on a streaming platform. In these cases, the music is being used as an inseparable part of the audiovisual work, not as an independent element.
I may be mistaken, but the film as a whole, under the provisions in article 17, once is PD is fully PD. That does not mean someone can take the movie and use the plot to film a remake. But the film, as a whole work, is PD. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 07:26, 13 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Maybe. But here we're talking about background music, so I guess every case will have some nuances. Also, some films will have their original script on PD, others maybe not...
The "cinematographic work" is PD, but the underlying screenplay is not that type of work and so (assuming that it was not made for hire) has a different term of protection. This is why the decision I linked to found that the "rights of the film Street Angel expired on ... 31 December 1987 [while] the ... rights of the script ... will expire on ... 31 December 2028." prospectprospekt (talk) 21:12, 19 May 2026 (UTC)reply
See Commons:Deletion requests/File:An Amorous History of the Silver Screen (1931).webm. File uploaded by Prospectprospekt and deleted by Abzeronow.
RoC copyright law of 1928 had a 30 years after publication copyright lenghth, RoC copyright law of 1944 included movies and gave 10 years after publication, and PRC's copyright law of 1990 gives 50 year after publication copyright term for movies. PRC 1990 did restore copyright for some works, but explicitally said it did not extend copyright for works whose term had expired. Anyway, the film was PD far before 1990 PRC copyright law was in effect.
It was assumed there was separately exploitable works. That figure exists in 1990 PRC copyright law, which does not apply to this file because the film was PD in the country back then. It was claimed the 1990 versions of PRC copyright did not recognize "work-for-hire", or did not clarify its copyright lenghth. But this movie was created during RoC, and RoC 1928 (and 1944) copyright did indeed recognize work-for-hire. So, undelete.--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Also, I asked Deepseek about the Copyright of a movie under Chinese law, and how it relates to the screenwrite, music, etc. seprarate copyrights:
When you broadcast the film as a complete work, your direct legal counterparty is the producer (制片者) of the film. The Copyright Law vests the economic rights to the cinematic work as a whole in the producer. Since the producer's economic rights have expired, the film's status as a public domain (PD) cinematic work is clear. Under this specific act, you are not directly using the script or the musical score as separate, independent entities (whether as a book, a standalone lyric sheet, or an audio track).
For all of these reasons, plaintiffs copyright infringement claim must be returned to the District Court to afford an opportunity for further development of the record and a sensitive aggregate assessment by the fact-finder of the fair use factors in light of the applicable legal principles
Now I doubt if that means 30 secs of artworks are de minimis, as said in the case; or wasn't because it's the District Court to rule about it.
Also, I asked Deepseek about the District Court and said
The district court granted summary judgment to BET and HBO, dismissing Faith Ringgold's copyright infringement claim because it found their use of her “Church Picnic Story Quilt” poster as set decoration on the sitcom ROC was protected as fair use
Fair use is irrelevant to us (No fair-use in Commons) but:
Amount and substantiality of the portion used: The court determined this factor supported the defendants. The segments showing the poster were brief, often only a partial view, and even when most of the poster was visible, it was not in exact focus
Effect on the potential market for the work: The court found this factor also favored the defendants. It reasoned that the television episode is not a substitute for purchasing the poster, so there was little likelihood of a negative impact on poster sales. The court also noted that Ringgold could not demonstrate a negative impact on her licensing market over the four years since the episode had aired
And, to add more confusion:
Based on this analysis, the district court sustained the defendants' fair use defense and dismissed the case. The Second Circuit later reversed this decision, finding that summary judgment was not warranted and that further fact-finding was required
Missed the opportunity to state my case (didnt get an email). I have personally made a rendition of the flag in Inkscape based on photographed sources of [2][3][4]. with exclusively and only using Public Domain designs File:KNLA Badge.svg made by user Albert Poliakoff (Under ((self|cc-zero))) and File:Flag_of_the_Karen_National_Union.svg made by Sshu94 (Under ((self|cc-by-sa-4.0))). Posted under self-CC. Due to the limited amount of pictures available of the group, I also took some creative liberties by hand (design, symbol, proportion, colors, and design constraint from reusing SVG assets stated in above) solely by using photos; such had made it fairly different to the actual flag of the Kawthoolei Army (the actual flag being: [5], ie. gradation, proportion, coloration, emblem being different). Due to the simplicity (consisting of simple shapes such as a canton], a half-circle, three stripes (with its base proportions from user Sshu94), and the public domain emblem design made by Albert Poliakoff derived from the KNLA, it should also be under PD-flag) and nature of fully reusing public domain designs made by other users in Commons, this deletion should be reverted. Other flags with the same or more complexity are seen listed PD under SVG flags of Myanmar. Kaliper1 (talk) 08:06, 26 May 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose The two files have no upload information except a category -- no source, no author, no license. While {{SobreiraLic}} contains all of that, it apparently confused the bot that does patrolling. The template also has far more information, mostly not needed, than is required in a license template which could simply be replaced with CC-BY-SA. I might suggest that the template should be deleted -- I see that you have used it 461 times, but there are bots that will do the replacement. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:18, 29 May 2026 (UTC)reply
I'm speaking about using the name of the files for uploading a new version, not about the license. The license and other data was forgotten because they were the first two files uploaded by the bot, as the name "A Guarda" could suggest, but was used (of fixed to be used) in other 3700 files. The name of the file I'm asking would be consistent with the one of other maps, which are expected to be automatically used in templates for those placenames. Otherwise I would be forced to upload it to the language project, which I consider absurd. ※Sobreira ◣◥ 〒 @「parlez」 18:08, 9 June 2026 (UTC)reply
According to zh:File:Taichung City Government LOGO.svg, it is an abstract logo of Taichung Park Lake Pavilion, with texts of "臺中市政府" and "Taichung City Government". It was copyrighted once, but it changed on 26 August 2025, when the government law, 臺中市市旗制式及使用要點, was released. The "Taichung Park Lake Pavilion" logo is therefore legalised, at least something below COM:TOO Taiwan since it looks the same as the logo in the law. The "臺中市政府" and "Taichung City Government" texts are below COM:TOO Taiwan. Also, shouldn't their AI file be seen as a resource that was released under the GWOIA? --Saimmx (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose Nothing in {{PD-ROC-exempt}} indicates that logos are exempt from copyright. As indicated in that template "official documents" is not the same as "everything created by government officials", it refers to specific types of content. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:55, 13 July 2026 (UTC)reply
By the means of "official documents" in "PD-ROC-exempt", I mean the law of "臺中市市旗制式及使用要點" - The article 3 describs:
I am unsure why you believed that the emblem is not exempted even the law described, maybe may because I mistranslated the context. If you believe that the "attached image" is not enough because it didn't say the "Lake Pavilion image" is the emblem of Taichung, we can add {{PD-ineligible}} as well, since they aren't really different between the "emblem of Taichung" and the "attached image" of "Lake Pavilion image". Saimmx (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment@The Squirrel Conspiracy, The objection is correct in principle: {{PD-ROC-exempt}} does not exempt a logo merely because it was created, published, or used by a government agency. The relevant question is whether the particular design was formally prescribed or approved pursuant to law and therefore constitutes an official document within the meaning of Article 9 of the Copyright Act.
The Taiwan Intellectual Property Office addressed this distinction in Electronic Mail No. 1091104. It explained that, where the form of a ministry, agency, or bureau emblem is prescribed pursuant to law, the officially prescribed design is excluded from copyright protection under Article 9. Electronic Mail No. 1110516 states the point even more explicitly: a design that has been officially approved and prescribed pursuant to law may be regarded as a type of official document and is therefore not protected by copyright.
In this case, 臺中市市旗制式及使用要點 is formally classified in the Taichung City legislation database as an administrative rule. The database lists 臺中市市旗設計說明.pdf as a graphic annex to that rule. Point 3 prescribes the appearance of the flag "as shown in the attached figure", while point 4 requires the flag to be produced in accordance with points 2 and 3 using an electronic final artwork. The particular Lake Pavilion graphic shown in the annex is therefore not merely a logo published on a government website; it forms part of the officially prescribed flag design.
However, this does not establish that every earlier Taichung City Government logo or every variation of the Lake Pavilion symbol is exempt. Each deleted file should be compared separately with the design contained in the graphic annex:
File:Taichung City Government emblem.jpg may be restored if it contains the same Lake Pavilion graphic prescribed in the annex, with only the plain wording "臺中市政府" and "Taichung City Government" added. In that case, the prescribed graphic may fall within {{PD-ROC-exempt}}, while the ordinary textual elements and any sufficiently simple arrangement may additionally fall within {{PD-ineligible}}.
File:Taichung City Government symbol 2010.svg may be restored on the same basis if an administrator confirms that it is a faithful vector reproduction of the same prescribed graphic and does not introduce any independently copyrightable additions or materially alter the design.
I therefore support restoration subject to confirmation that the deleted files faithfully reproduce the Lake Pavilion graphic contained in the legal annex and contain no additional copyrightable elements. This is a limited argument based on the legally prescribed design, not a claim that all government logos are automatically exempt from copyright. This is Taiwania Justo speaking (Reception Room)07:47, 19 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Reason: The flag design is formally prescribed by the Taichung City Government's administrative rule, 臺中市市旗制式及使用要點 (Directions Governing the Specifications and Use of the Taichung City Flag).
This is not merely an image published on a government website. The official legislation database expressly lists 臺中市市旗設計說明.pdf under "圖表附件" (graphic annexes) to the administrative rule. Point 3 of the rule provides that the style of the flag is "as shown in the attached figure", while point 4 requires the flag to be manufactured in accordance with points 2 and 3 using an electronic final artwork.
The annex therefore forms an integral and normative part of the administrative rule: it determines the prescribed appearance, proportions, placement, dimensions and colour specifications of the official city flag. It is not a separate promotional illustration or an unrelated government-created logo.
The Taiwan Intellectual Property Office has also explained in Electronic Mail No. 1110516 that, where the form of a government emblem or flag is prescribed pursuant to law, the officially approved design is regarded as a type of official document and is excluded from copyright protection under Article 9 of the Copyright Act. Accordingly, the prescribed flag design falls within {{PD-ROC-exempt}}.
Deleted as having no licence since 2025. The logo itself (for the Russian branch of the Dynamo fitness club) is public domain from the 1920s and was created by the Soviet government. --Edward Werner (talk) 14:51, 20 June 2026 (UTC)reply
The letter "D" was not created by the Soviet government and can not be copyrighted but is there a photo from the 1920s with this particular version of the logo in use? Thuresson (talk) 12:46, 21 June 2026 (UTC)reply
The letter "D" was not created by the Soviet government but the letter in that particular font was (there's a cursive 'Dynamo' wordmark that also uses it and also dates from those days). In either case, 'blue D in a diamond' is shorthand for fitness and everybody in Moscow, Kyiv, Bilhorod, and Dnipro knows it. Edward Werner (talk) 07:42, 22 June 2026 (UTC)reply
The only addition consists of the words, "Club Dynamo" in a generic sans serif typeface (likely Arial). The "D" is far more original (counting by work put in) than the words added; of course, it's become partly genericised, more an iconic pictogram than a corporate logo of a transnational non-profit, but regardless. Ditto for the cursive wordmark. Edward Werner (talk) 13:46, 22 June 2026 (UTC)reply
If you take the position that this exact logo is copyrighted, you'd have to do the same for File:Dynamo logo.svg as well—that one is used by a for-profit (i.e. the Dynamo Kyiv FC team), and likewise zero original work has been put in apart from the addition of the word 'Kyiv' in a generic typeface. Edward Werner (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2026 (UTC)reply
It was claimed that this logo, not the letter D, is from the 1920s so I would like to see a photo from the 1920s with this specific logo, thank you. Thuresson (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2026 (UTC)reply
If the "D" is the only thing with some degree of originality and the rest of the logo is composed simply by two words in Arial, then the only thing that matters is the copyright of the "D", @Edward Werner here demostrates that it's in PD, unless someone can prove the opposite then this means that the whole logo is in PD, you don't get a new copyright simply by adding two words in a standard typeface. Friniate (talk) 23:01, 26 June 2026 (UTC)reply
You agree that the only part of the logo which is creative, is in PD-old
You agree that the part that is not PD-old, is not creative enough and therefore is PD-text logo
But you think that from the union of two elements that are in PD, a new copyright can be formed? AFAIK this idea goes against long established practice both here on Commons and in RL, do you have a legal precedent supporting this idea?
The issue is not whether the entire file can be described as “a text logo” in isolation. The copyright question should be whether the version in File:Динамо.svg contains any copyrightable authorship beyond the already old/public-domain Dynamo “Д” emblem.
As far as I understand the file, the only arguably creative element is the historical “Д” emblem. The added wording «ОБЩЕСТВО ДИНАМО» appears to be ordinary text in a standard sans-serif typeface, with no independent graphic treatment beyond ordinary placement. A new copyright is not created merely by adding uncopyrightable text to a public-domain emblem, unless the selection, coordination, or arrangement itself contains sufficient original authorship.
This is also consistent with the U.S. approach in Feist, where copyright in a compilation or arrangement extends only to original selection/coordination/arrangement and not to public-domain or uncopyrightable underlying elements. Likewise, Satava v. Lowry is useful for the point that copyright cannot be used to reclaim public-domain or standard elements by combining them without a protectable original contribution.
So the question I would ask is: what specific copyrightable authorship is alleged to exist in File:Динамо.svg apart from the old “Д” emblem and the plain words «ОБЩЕСТВО ДИНАМО»? If no such authorship can be identified, restoration under a combination of PD-old for the emblem and PD-textlogo / below-TOO reasoning for the added text seems appropriate. Edward Werner (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Support It appears that parts of this logo are PD-old and other parts are PD-textlogo, whether or not combining two of these PD elements generates new copyright can be figured out after undeleting it. ℺ Gone Postal (〠✉ • ✍⏿) 16:23, 16 August 2026 (UTC)reply
I'd like to request (temporary, at least) undeletion of the following 30 files, which had been speedy deleted after nomination by User:Whyiseverythingalreadyused, because I am suspecting that most of them are not copyvio as below COM:TOO Japan.
Support Most logos should be discussed in regular deletion requests instead of skipping discussion in the form of speedy deletion, because there is a good chance that they are below TOO. This is especially true for file pages with {{PD-textlogo}} and its variants (I don't know if these file paged had it, though). We could undelete these and recommend regular deletion requests, or we could use this venue to review (after temporary undeletion). whym (talk) 12:23, 15 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Speedy deletion is for extreme cases only. This is not it. I think that the job of admin is to lessen the amount of work that other users need to do, not to increase it by such speedy actions. ℺ Gone Postal (〠✉ • ✍⏿) 16:25, 16 August 2026 (UTC)reply
Hello everyone! I am submitting a request to restore this file, along with File:"Dustlik" award by Ismat Kuchiev 01.jpg. Here is the situation: the file was originally set up with a Flickr license and uploaded to that site by the author; later, the file was deleted, and he submitted a restoration request to VRT. He was informed that the issue wasn't the license itself but the file's setup, and that it needed to be re-uploaded using Commons:Flickr2Commons. I asked the volunteer who replied to his email—on her talk page—which step would be best to take now; she suggested that I could either submit a restoration request or re-upload it using the previously suggested method. I wanted to re-upload it directly, but for some reason, the site breaks whenever I try to log in. That is why I am submitting my request here. Please help with these files. --Mizgel (talk) 12:13, 5 July 2026 (UTC)reply
The photo is low, non-original quality. If it was published by the photographer in Flickr under a free license, please provide a link to it in Flickr. If it is your own photo, please upload its original version from your camera. Ankry (talk) 18:38, 5 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Concerning the other image, we need an evidence of free license for the orden and its document or an evidence of their copyright status. IF {{PD-UZ-exempt}} applies to them, please, explain why. Ankry (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2026 (UTC)reply
It was precisely because of such suspicions that Vyacheslav Golubev personally wrote a letter to VRT; this letter was reviewed by the user @Lvova, but she indicated that a reinstatement request needed to be submitted—which is what I did. I ask you to please re-examine all the information. Mizgel (talk) 20:34, 7 July 2026 (UTC)reply
@Yann: what can I do additionally as a VRT agent in this situation, what's your idea? As you, I can check whether this photo was published before; if it is the first publication, VRT gives nothing, just an e-mail. There is no any additional proof, no any additional responsibility, just more work for the overloaded system with no reason. Анастасия Львоваru/en22:22, 7 July 2026 (UTC)reply
@Lvova: I am fine if you are satisfied with the answer given by the client on VRT. I don't have VRT access anymore, so I trust you on that matter. Yann (talk) 22:29, 7 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Reason: It appears like it was mistakenly tagged. It was not published elsewhere as far as I can see, and it was attributed to the uploader on the file page. I don't see why this needed to be deleted as "no permission". I asked Shizhao for explanation, but they did not respond.
In general, a VRT email is redundant if a work is first published on Commons, and attributed to the uploader. whym (talk) 01:13, 12 July 2026 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure reasonable doubt is enough for doing speedy deletion. Maybe turn it into a regular deletion request (after undeleting it)? whym (talk) 11:31, 1 August 2026 (UTC)reply
Solicito retirar la etiqueta de borrado rápido CSD F10 para este archivo. La imagen es una fotografía promocional y representativa del artista musical ElMenderr (Q140644141), utilizada para su identificación enciclopédica en su elemento de Wikidata. El archivo cumple con los criterios de relevancia enciclopédica y cuenta con las licencias correspondientes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maesst (talk • contribs) 07:46, 24 July 2026 (UTC)reply
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@Maesst tell me: why does it appear that you, the temporary account ~2026-40968-93 on Wikidata, and the temporary account ~2026-40855-27 are the same person?
Hello Yann and Jim,
Thank you for your patience. To resolve the sourcing concern, I will simplify my request and rely solely on the one reference that is clearly and verifiably in the public domain: the U.S. Library of Congress Matson Photograph Collection (LC-DIG-matpc-21514, dated October 4, 1941): https://www.loc.gov/resource/matpc.21514/. This collection is held by a U.S. federal institution, is marked "No known restrictions on publication," and is widely used on Wikimedia Commons as a public domain source.
I withdraw the reference to the family photograph and the Palestinian magazine photo, since I cannot establish their exact publication date and photographer with certainty, and I understand this is required for derivative works.
The portrait itself remains an original artwork: I created the charcoal background and the colored figure myself, using the Library of Congress photograph as visual reference only — not tracing or reproducing it directly. I am the sole author and copyright holder of the resulting composite work, which I release under CC BY-SA 4.0.
I would appreciate it if the file could be reconsidered on this simplified and verifiable basis. Please let me know if any further clarification is needed.
Best regards,
Gmyazbeckk
Gmyazbeckk (talk) 04:38, 31 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Okay, I'm renominating this because the closing rationale here from the previous undeletion request is clearly incorrect: You agree to not engage in the use, copying, or distribution of any of the Content other than expressly permitted herein, including any use, copying, or distribution of User Submissions […] That includes the CC BY-SA 3.0 license that's expressly permitted on the source page. HyperAnd [talk] 09:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose The quote above applies only to the restrictions in the sentence that contains it. The whole license, which I quoted in my previous close of this, contains other, similar restrictions to which the phrase above does not apply. The license is very sloppy drafting, but we must read it as it is constructed and not as we wish it were. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:22, 27 July 2026 (UTC)reply
I've read it again, the ToU defines "Content" as excluding User Submissions: The content on the Newgrounds Website, except all User Submissions (as defined below), including without limitation, the text, software, scripts (except where explicitly stated), graphics, photos, sounds, music, videos, interactive features and the like ("Content") […] Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be used, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners. Again, the "other than expressly permitted" is still there: You agree to not engage in the use, copying, or distribution of any of the Content other than expressly permitted herein, including any use, copying, or distribution of User Submissions of third parties obtained through the Website for any commercial purposes. Down to the "User Submissions" section, they affirm that For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. That means that users still retain copyright to their works and can distribute them in any non-exclusive license, including Creative Commons. Newgrounds's Creative Commons integration just makes doing this easier. Also pinging @Ankry from the previous deletion request. HyperAnd [talk] 19:51, 27 July 2026 (UTC)reply
While the prewious UDR duiscussion showed that there is no copyright problem here, the main doubt was related to scope. I am Neutral in this matter. Ankry (talk) 19:58, 27 July 2026 (UTC)reply
Both images are taken directly from the Allgemeine Informationssicherheitsrichtlinie (AISR) des Regierungsrates für die kantonale Verwaltung of the Canton of Zurich, adopted by the Government Council on 16 April 2025 as part of Regierungsratsbeschluss No. 438/2025.
The AISR is not a promotional publication but a binding governmental directive and an official act of the Government Council of the Canton of Zurich. The two graphics are integral parts of this official act and directly illustrate the governance structure and implementation model established by the AISR. Under Article 5 of the Swiss Copyright Act, laws, ordinances, other official acts, and decisions, protocols and reports of public authorities are not protected by copyright.
Wikimedia Commons provides {{PD-Switzerland-official}} specifically for images from Swiss or cantonal laws, ordinances, other official acts, decisions, protocols or reports by public authorities.
For the U.S. copyright status, {{PD-EdictGov}} also appears applicable because the AISR is an administrative governmental act and official legal material issued by a cantonal government.
If the files are restored, I will amend both file description pages to provide the exact official source, author («Regierungsrat des Kantons Zürich»), date, and the appropriate public-domain tags.
I therefore request restoration of both files so that their source and copyright information can be corrected accordingly.
I request the undeletion of File:Blason famille fr Cinquin.svg, which was deleted following the deletion discussion concerning the Cinquin arms.
The principal issue raised in that discussion was the absence of a published reference supporting these arms.
A new published source is now available: Frédéric Luz (dir.), Armorial de France & d’Europe, no. 13, La Place Royale, 2026, ISSN 1151-0978, p. 136, entry no. 2277, “CINQUIN, CINQUIN DE LA COMBE (Famille en Bourgogne)”.
This entry provides a complete published blazon of the Cinquin arms, together with additional heraldic elements, the motto and a historical notice. The publication was issued in 2026. A copy was received by the Bibliothèque nationale de France under legal deposit on 12 August 2026 (ISSN 1151-0978).
I am not asking to reconsider the earlier discussion on the basis of the information available at that time. I am requesting undeletion because the circumstances have materially changed: there is now a published and precisely identifiable source for the arms represented by the deleted file.
The SVG itself is not derived from or copied from the illustration published in the Armorial; the Armorial is cited solely as a bibliographical source for the arms and their blazon.
If the file is restored, its description can be updated immediately with the complete bibliographical reference above.
Issue no. 13 of the Armorial de France et d’Europe was published in 2026 and distributed to its contributors and subscribers. A legal-deposit copy was received by the Bibliothèque nationale de France on 12 August 2026.
The individual bibliographic record for issue no. 13 is not yet displayed in the BnF’s public catalogue, which currently lists the preceding issues up to no. 12. This appears to be only a cataloguing delay and does not affect the fact that issue no. 13 has been published and deposited.
Issue no. 13 contains, on page 136, entry no. 2277, “CINQUIN, CINQUIN DE LA COMBE (Famille en Bourgogne)”, including the complete blazon of the arms, additional heraldic elements, the motto and a historical notice.
This published source establishes that the arms are published and expressly attributed to the Cinquin family. The present request does not claim that the publication, by itself, proves ancient nobility or any historical status beyond what the source states.
Could an uninvolved administrator please review this undeletion request?
If required for verification, I can provide photographs of the cover, the publication and legal-deposit details, and page 136 containing the cited entry.
Brief follow-up: Could an uninvolved administrator please review this request, which has been open since 6 September? The published heraldic source and verification details are set out above. Thank you. Lordisland 14:21, 29 September 2026 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordisland (talk • contribs) 14:21, 29 September 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment This reference has been discussed here, with the conclusion (reached by another user) being: ‘Luz’s armorial is not intended to catalogue notable families, but merely to sell individuals the right to have their name associated with a coat of arms for 120 euros. No checks are carried out, and Luz states: “This work is purely heraldic. We accept no responsibility for any disputes, quarrels or claims of a genealogical or noble nature.” I’ve categorised it as ‘to be avoided’.”
Therefore, this so-called ‘reference’ is not regarded as a reference at all, any more than a website where anyone can freely register their coat of arms – whether free of charge or not – would be.
That is correct, but since there is no further comment on the application of the CC mark, it applies only to that page. While it is possible that it is the intent that the whole site be CC licensed, that is not what is written and we must obey what is written, not what might have been intended. Also note that the source site for the image is
@Jameslwoodward: the CC claim does not rely on a notice on the DivulgaCandContas page. TSE’s Open Data Portal divides the official election portraits by state; each resource collection (e.g. SP - Fotos de candidatos) explicitly states in its resource metadata: “License: Creative Commons Attribution”. The parent Candidatos - 2024 dataset is likewise CC BY and expressly includes candidate photographs.
As for COM:SCOPE, these are official electoral portraits, required by law as part of the candidate-registration process and used by TSE in the electronic voting machines. Even if a source photograph is distorted, that is itself the official image actually shown to voters and therefore has a legitimate educational and documentary purpose.
There are already thousands of equivalent TSE portraits on Commons, for example:
The fact the other files exist is never a valid argument here. My best guess is that at least one percent of our files -- over one million -- should be deleted. I suspect that both of the files above have the same problem.
There is no legal basis for your claim that because TSE has a CC-BY license on a single page, with nothing saying that it applies anywhere but that page, that any other page owned by TSE has the same license. A license applies only where you see it unless there is language with it that extends to other pages. That is particularly true here since, as I said above, the license and the images in question are not even on the same site.
@Jameslwoodward: I think there is still a misunderstanding about what the linked TSE page represents. If not, and you are in fact questioning the license tag {{TSE-Dados-Abertos}} and all of its files, then it is a much broader issue than this individual request; one that should be resolved before thousands of files are uploaded and just as much volunteer-hours are spent using them in election-related Wikipedia articles.
The CC notice is not attached to an ordinary webpage. It's a government open data catalogue, from Brazil's Superior Electoral Court (Q3656204). As such, it's the entire dataset that is being explicitly licensed as Creative Commons Attribution. The individual file we are discussing here is inside that .zip dataset.
I do have to concede the practical worry about license washing (I also concede the need to delete 1% of all files, but that's for another day). Someone could distort a photo to appear as legit TSE candidate portrait, and checking it against the original datasource could be very onerous without some sort of automated bot process. But just as with Flickr, the possibility of false or misleading license claims should not by itself prevent us from importing material from a source that is otherwise systematically and verifiably free-licensed (I take it the argument regarding SCOPE has been dropped). — Épico(talk)/(contrib)21:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)reply
But, as I have said several times above, it is not "explicitly licensed" -- the CC-BY exists on the page without any words in any way suggesting that it applies to not only that web site but also another. That may have been the intention, but unfortunately we must act on what is written, not what might have been intended. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:32, 19 September 2026 (UTC)reply
The general test of whether a building falls under TOO has been whether it is mass produced. These include apartments, houses, public schools (which often use pre-prepared standardized blueprints), (in general) public libraries, commonly seen commercial buildings, etc. A common test would be is whether the architectural work in question is publicly recognizable as a landmark (e.g. 63 building) and whether significant artistic merit could be seen. With this definition, most residential buildings, commercial buildings, and public buildings should not count unless obviously recognizable. In contrast, major government complexes, major landmarks, larger department stores, or other buildings with creative intent (e.g. modernist designs) could be considered within TOO.
Mass production isn't an issue under international copyright law, and shouldn't be under South Korean law. If it meets the TOO, whether the company builds one copy or ten thousand is irrelevant.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:57, 21 September 2026 (UTC)reply
@Prosfilaes mass production by 'itself' isn't a problem, you're correct -- I was more so talking about this as a "rule of thumb". But you're missing the main point: the de facto reality is Korean courts are very hesitant to grant copyright production to common place utilitarian buildings like apartments buildings and schools.
A better clarification to my point above would be utility: if the building is of utilitarian nature, a higher bar of artistic merit is required according to Korean law. But does this mean utilitarian buildings can't be copyrighted? Unfortunately, YES they can, if the building shows unique creativity and artistic merit.
So, how do we know if something is unique? This is where the mass produced blueprints comes from. When judging whether something is creative, Korean courts use industry standards. See this case for example, which affirmed that a simple school design doesn't merit protection as an architectural work. A lot of the evidence cited for this verdict was similar mass designed school templates; the more industry standards and practices that exist, the less likely Korean court would want to recognize something as copyrightable. This isn't necessarily by virtue of being mass produced, but rather a consequence of something being so commonplace that it would be judged utilitarian. Takipoint123 (💬) 08:13, 25 September 2026 (UTC)reply
On the FOP, many users have misunderstanding about the scope of application in South Korea. Before to declare something's FOP, users should check belows; public domain stuff including PD-old, universal design including schools and government buiildigs, mass product designs as like as apartments, and originalities. As your said, South Korea has not "full" FOP, but it do not say that you cannot shot a photo of every buildings. -- Jjw (talk) 07:38, 13 September 2026 (UTC)reply
@Jameslwoodward: I did not argue that all photos of South Korean buildings must be undeleted. And it is absurd to apply United States cases to the copyright of South Korean buildings. This deletion request notes that not all South Korean buildings are copyrighted; buildings with simple, commonplace designs are not copyrighted. This implies that even though there is no freedom of panorama in South Korea, images of buildings that below threshold of originality are allowed. Ox1997cow (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2026 (UTC)reply
The US ToO for architecture is relevant because images on Commons must be PD or otherwise free in both the source country and the US. The US ToO must be applied to all buildings built after 1990 when architecture came under copyright in the US. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:26, 13 September 2026 (UTC)reply
United States TOO is irrelevant as the United States does recognize freedom of panorama; thus only the Korean threshold needs to be applied to see whether it is allowed on Commons. Takipoint123 (💬) 21:21, 13 September 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment There is a good point in this UDR. We usually use the local threshold of originality for buildings, like we use the local freedom of panorama, not the US ToO or FoP. Yann (talk) 10:54, 14 September 2026 (UTC)reply
I am sorry, but I do not have the time to look at the entire category and pick-and-choose. Again, my point above stands: regular school, office, and business strips should qualify for undeletion. Takipoint123 (💬) 22:52, 28 September 2026 (UTC)reply
File:Wappen im Schulhaus.jpg Es war mein erstes Bild das ich hochgeladen habe und habe die Falsche Auswahl getroffen.
Hallo, bitte um Wiederherstellung des Wappens unseres Ortes Maisenbach Zainen, ich habe dieses Bild von userem Wappen geschossen.
Das war das erste Bild das ich auf Wikipedia hochgeladen habe und mir waren zu dem Zeitpunkt die Richtlinien noch nicht klar.
Das Wappen wurde uns von der Stadt Bad Liebenzell meines Wissens nach zum 800 Jährigen Jubiläum unseres dorfes in kombionation mit dem Bad Liebenzeller Wappen geschenkt. Ist in einem Öffentlichen Gebäude ausgestellt und fällt somit auch nicht unter Urheberrichtlinien des ehemaligen Malers.
Vielen dank,
MfG
MFR.MZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MFR.MZ (talk • contribs) 11:21, 27 September 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose According to the file description and the note above, this is a photograph of a CoA painted on the wall of a school building in Maisenbach Zainen, Germany. In order for German Freedom of Panorama to apply, it would have to be visible from a public place. There is no evidence of weathering, so I think we must rely on the uploader to tell us exactly where it is located. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:20, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
This concerns the hidden revision, which I presume has the portrait of Johnson next to Faingold unblurred. I believe this portrait is public domain through publication in this press photo without proper notice. It is clear from the posing that Faingold had invited the photographer to take this picture and reproduce the portrait of Johnson along with it. There is no evidence Faingold required AP to affix a proper copyright notice during distribution to newspapers. While Faingold did assert copyright over a portrait of Martin Luther King, Jr., this was a standalone portrait sold directly to the public. By contrast, this portrait of King on a dust jacket did not have a proper copyright notice, and several wedding photos [9][10][11][12][13] by Faingold also lack a proper notice. The LBJ portrait being public domain comports with the decision in wikisource:Letter Edged in Black Press, Inc. v. Public Building Commission of Chicago, where a court found that a sculpture had entered the public domain in part because the copyright owners actively invited the press to take photos of the sculpture and made no attempt to have them affix proper notice. Therefore, the hidden revision can be unhidden. Based5290 :3 (talk) 22:33, 27 September 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose For the line of reasoning above to apply, it would have be shown that Faingold gave a written license to AP for the use of his copyrighted work. If he did not, then the reproduction was not formally authorized by him as required and lack of notice does not apply. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:24, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Many files in my watchlist or files I uploaded
Hi,
I figured out that many files on my watchlist or files I uploaded has been deleted, and some of them I believe them has been released into the public domain or under a free license. Therefore, I'll request the undeletion according to the following creieria:
Files that comes from the Government of Chile, therefore, formerly under the {{CC-GobCL}} license (now {{CC-State of Chile}}). The lack of a licensing or a license different than CC-CY in any part of the source does not matter, as the Ord. 112/14 of 2010 and the subsecuent decreres and laws prevails. Bedivere could help with checking without temporary undeleting.
I am the original creator and uploader of all four files. They were created by me in connection with my scientific work on Rotating Coherent Scattering (ROCS) microscopy.
If the files were deleted because the source or authorship information was considered insufficient, I confirm explicitly that I created all four media myself and that the source is Own work.
For File:ROCS Astrazeneca BGS20 glow2.webm, I had already provided a valid free licence when I originally uploaded the file. To the best of my recollection, the same applies to the three image files. The deleted file histories should show the original licensing information.
I therefore request restoration of all four files. If any additional source, authorship, or licensing information is required for any individual file, please let me know and I will provide it.
Neutral on the matter. But this was deleted in 2023, so I have no memory of the original deletion. Best guess since it was done with VFC is that I zapped a bunch of that uploader's files at once, which means I would have missed that there was a prior DR. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:12, 5 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I added copyvio template due to paper itself did not show license,[14] but I actually found journal's ethic policy mention CC BY license.[15] Although it is questionable as link say CC BY 4.0, text say CC BY-NC, so I don't know which to trust. But either way I jumped to conclusions too quickly about this. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 23:09, 30 September 2026 (UTC)reply
"Nature Conservation Research is an Open Access Journal. All articles are distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License (CC by-nc/4.0), which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited. Thus, an open-access article has limited copyright and licensing restrictions which means anyone, anywhere, with access to the Internet may read, download, copy, and distribute that article."
Support Except the text "which means anyone, anywhere, with access to the Internet may read, download, copy, and distribute that article" describes exactly what is CC-BY licence conditions. Not CC-BY-NC licence conditions because there are no commercial restrictions. --Abalg (talk) 19:13, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. When a web site has conflicting license information, as this one does, we must obey the stricter of the two licenses -- we cannot guess which one they really mean. Note the "nc" in the license in the second sentence of the quote above. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:01, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Depends. I have myself uploaded music that is freely licensed on Newgrounds but isn't on Bandcamp due to the artist's label choosing the default most restrictive terms. I even posted on village pump for clarification and they said that the least restrictive license counts. Though I'm not sure if that applies to two licenses posted in the same place. Dabmasterars [EN/RU] (talk/uploads) 20:37, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
As you guessed, having the two licenses on the same site is different. If they are on different sites, anyone who sees only the less restrictive site can use that license because they may or may not have seen the more restrictive site. That can't apply if they are both in the same place. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:29, 1 October 2026 (UTC)reply
ha sido borrada por presunto incumplimiento de los derechos de Copyright aunque se ha realizado con mi telefono movil y con la autorizacion de la propia Maria Rey-Joly en los camerinos del Teatro de la Zarzuela ayer viernes 2 de octubre de 2026 despues de la obra La verbena de la Paloma.
En el mismo momento realice otra foto con ella en los mismos camerinos
File:Foto Maria y Coral.jpg
Tengo todos los derechos de las dos fotos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basileia62 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 3 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The undeletion discussion in the following section is now closed.Please do not make any edits to this archive.
Reason: User Ziv has baselessly accused this of being AI-generated (please look closer at the image, this is clearly hand drawn) and/or being stolen. There is no evidence for this. The only upload of this poster online can be found at https://revaus.org/media/propaganda/ , which has no copyright put on it. The image has some mild relevance to Australian left-wing politics & I think is pretty high quality. OTEureka (talk) 23:48, 3 October 2026 (UTC)reply
How exactly is a COI relevant here? Wikimedia allows you & explicitly encourages you to upload self-made original content, the guidelines here are far less strict than notability requirements for wikipedia articles. OTEureka (talk) 10:18, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The poster is found on this archive on the ARA website which has the following text written at the bottom:
"All propaganda content on this page may be freely used, distributed and shared by anyone provided proper attribution is given and content is not modified. All content here is created by members or supporters of ARA." OTEureka (talk) 10:20, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@OTEureka: It is interesting that you are now pointing to the website in the undeletion request. At the time of upload, it was declared as "own work" which is not, instead of linking to the website and indicating that "a proper attribution has to given." No, that is not how it works. The website also does not clearly state under which CC license the material may be published. Consequently, {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} is likewise incorrect. זיו「Ziv」 • For love letters and other notes12:04, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
This is 'own work', because I made it. There is no contradiction here.
This file is the 2032 paralympic games logo. It has been taken down due to a copyright violation, however, the olympic logo has not. This seems suspicous, and is plainly ableist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Potto342 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
You should assume good faith. Australia has a very low ToO and the wings might put it over. The bottom part is fine as that's below Swiss ToO. Abzeronow (talk) 02:54, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The IOC is notorious for enforcing their copyrights and trademarks. As Abzeronow says, Australia has a very low ToO and, in fact this is not only clearly above the Australian ToO but is probably above the US ToO as well.
File:Ensaio Fotográfico de Bryan Haller no Gelo (2025).jpg
Template:VRT permission
Hello. The files listed in this ticket were deleted on September 23, 2026, due to "no ticket permission" right when the 30-day period expired. However, the permission email from the copyright holder (Marcos Vinícius Valverde Dias) was sent on August 23, 2026, and is registered under VRT Ticket #2026082310001197.
Could an administrator please restore the deleted files so the VRT team can process the ticket over the restored pages?
Oppose You have it backwards -- first VRT reads the email and then, second, the VRT member either restores the images or puts a request here for the image to be restored.
Requesting undeletion of File:BSR Publishing (2026).jpg. This file is my own 100% creation, official logo of my company BROTHERSWAGGSTUDIORECORDS (BSR Publishing) EST. 2017.
It was deleted on 10:45, 2 October 2026 by Wdwd under G7. The logo contains: "HAITI'S LEADING HIP HOP & LITERARY PLATFORM", "BSR BROTHERSWAGG STUDIO RECORDS & PUBLISHING OFFICIAL CROSSOVER", microphone, vinyl, book with feather pen, Haiti flag, tagline "MUSIC THAT INSPIRES. WORDS THAT TRANSFORM."
I am the founder and sole owner DIEUDELIN ROBERT (Arcangel Legrand - Brotherswagg). I have sent permission to VRT and have an active ticket.
Requesting undeletion - VRT Ticket#: 2026100410000737 - Own work BSR Publishing logo
VRT Ticket#: 2026100410000737 (Permission email sent Oct 4, 2026)
Author: BROTHERSWAGGSTUDIORECORDS / DIEUDELIN ROBERT
Oppose, And on Wikidata, you write about legitimate, good-faith, and strictly voluntary contributions, yet here you admit to being the founder and owner. So, there are clearly promotional intentions behind your long-winded spiel. זיו「Ziv」 • For love letters and other notes12:21, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Hi Ziv, brief clarification per COM:OWN. On Commons every uploader must declare "own work" to claim copyright and file VRT. That is mandatory, not promotion. I am the graphic author of File:BSR Publishing (2026).jpg, so VRT 2026100410000737 is filed with my consent to release it freely. My declaration as founder refers only to copyright of the IMAGE FILE to prove I can license it. It is standard practice and should not be mixed with Wikidata items, which are two different policies. Thank you. Rosecachelle (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Response to Ziv - clarification of authorship declaration
Thank you for your comment, Ziv.
I want to clarify the difference between copyright authorship declaration on Commons and organizational affiliation on Wikidata, because they are two different policies.
On Wikimedia Commons, per COM:OWN and COM:EVID, every uploader MUST declare themselves as the author / copyright holder when uploading own work. This is mandatory. If I upload a logo file that I designed myself and I state that it belongs to someone else, that would be considered copyright misrepresentation and the file would be deleted for lacking permission. Stating "own work by me" is the only legitimate way the platform allows to claim a file and to provide a VRT permission.
I am the graphic author of the file File:BSR Publishing (2026).jpg - I designed this logo. Therefore I am the legitimate rights holder who can release it under a free license. That is why VRT ticket 2026100410000737 was filed with my explicit consent. My declaration "I am the founder/owner" in that ticket refers strictly to copyright ownership of the IMAGE FILE, not as a claim of being a paid promotional account of the organization.
Authorship of an image file does not equal paid advocacy. In fact, declaring authorship is how I am GIVING AWAY the work to Commons for free and stable use, as every other user does when they upload "created by me". I am not defending personal property to keep it private; I am defending it to keep it freely available on the platform, which requires me to prove I am the legitimate uploader.
On Wikidata, my contributions are strictly voluntary and in good faith, per WD:AGF. My edit history includes diverse topics (school, commune) that were not included in the bulk deletion request, which shows I am not a single-purpose promotional account. The GitHub page mentioned in the Wikidata discussion was an old abandoned test found via Google search, not a source used in any Wikidata item.
I have declared COI where appropriate and I respect both projects' policies. I request that authorship declaration on Commons not be used as evidence of malice on Wikidata, as it is a standard copyright requirement under COM:L.
Not done: This image will be restored automatically, without further action by the uploader, if and when a free license is received, read, and approved at VRT, and VRT requests undeletion. The current backlog at VRT is 3 days.
. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:34, 5 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Doing… --Yann (talk) 22:52, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Oppose because the s:Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (1990) was retroactive and we cannot say that it didn't apply to works created before 1949. The first point follows from the plain meaning of Chapter VI, Article 55, which says that protection is granted to any qualifying work whose "
Support keep per Template:PD-US-extracted-audio. JaydenChao (talk) 11:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
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Comment The character is not Mickey Mouse - multiple animation studios in the era had characters with vaguely similar appearance, including some that predated Mikey - so that should not be a factor. However if the audio was US recordings, they would not yet be PD per Commons:Hirtle_chart#Sound_recordings as the term is 100 years, which has not yet passed. -- 19:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
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Weak support temporary undeletion, unsure about permanent undeletion (I don't remember what they looked like, and I'd certainly like to verify; gracias Mzaki) Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 01:24, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
Restore, but this is the only one i personally would.
Question VAU000575197 is a different logo, right? --Stefan2 (talk) 23:40, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
Neutral in this matter. Ankry (talk) 19:58, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
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Info The file was deleted by User:Túrelio, maybe they want to comment on this. Best, ChemSim (Talk) ping me pls 09:13, 1 October 2026 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:50, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
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Wait for deletion request on Wikidata. Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 03:07, 4 October 2026 (UTC)
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