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Join Us for the International Mother Language Day 2025 Datathon

Hello Bodhisattwa 👋🏼

We are excited to invite you to participate in the International Mother Language Day 2025 Datathon, taking place from February 21 to February 28, 2025. This event is organized by WikiProject India in collaboration with Indian communities, aiming to celebrate linguistic diversity and contribute to Wikidata by enriching content related to Indian languages.

During the datathon, participants will focus on:

• Adding and improving labels, descriptions, and aliases in their mother tongue.
• Enhancing Wikidata entries for places in India and notable Indian personalities.
• Expanding language-related content on Wikidata, particularly items associated with languages of India.

This is a great opportunity for both new and experienced contributors to engage with Wikidata and make a meaningful impact in promoting their native languages in the digital space.

If you’re interested in joining, simply add your name to the participant list at the Participants section.

Let's come together to celebrate International Mother Language Day and strengthen multilingual representation on Wikidata. 🥳

For any questions or further details, feel free to reach out to me or post your query at the WikiProject India talk page.

Looking forward to your participation. 😊

Best regards,
-User:Gnoeee 04:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Plays

Plays are dramatic works, meant to be performed. Please do not remove this information from dramatic works. They are a different kind of creative work than literary works, because there will be performances in databases. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Noted. Thanks. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:26, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Invitation to Open Data Days 2025 Datathon

Hello Bodhisattwa 👋🏼

You're invited to join Open Data Days 2025 Datathon, a collaborative datathon dedicated to enriching open knowledge through Wikidata, OpenStreetMap, and other open data platforms. Join us to connect with fellow contributors, enhance open data resources, and improve structured knowledge for the benefit of all... 🚀

📅 Event Date - 1st Mar - 15th Mar 2025

🌍 Where: Online

🎯 Focus Areas: Participants will collaborate to expand and refine open datasets, aligning with this year’s theme, Open Data to Tackle the Polycrisis.

This is a opportunity for both new and experienced contributors to engage, connect and contribute to open knowledge movement. Let's come together to celebrate International Open Data Day and contribute. 🥳

For any questions or further details, feel free to reach out to me or post your query at the WikiProject India talk page.

If you’re interested in joining, add your name to the participant list at the Participants section and start contributing.

Looking forward to your participation. :)

Best regards,
- User:Gnoeee 10:00, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

historical novel

Please prefer "historical fiction" over "historical novel" for genre. The novel is the form; historical fiction is the genre. Using "historical novel" mixes together the two kinds of data. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

The same issue applies to multiple other mixed values you've been substituting. Please go back are reverse your edits. "Novel" is defined by form, and so is not part of the genre. Detective fiction is "detective fiction", whether it is a short story, a novel, or series. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:32, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, historical novel (Q192239) is described as a literary genre by form (Q108368282) and novel genre (Q108317211) and also is a sublcass of historical fiction (Q1196408), and thats why I had added it to the works. Its mixed, yes, but it's still a genre and I am not sure, why that specification is wrong to add. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 17:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Because it mixes two concepts together. The whole reason we've been using "historical fiction" and "detective fiction" is to keep form and genre disentangled from each other. "Literary genre by form" indicates that it is a concept mixing together genre and form. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, ok, will revert back to the previous statements. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 18:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Update entries for Kolkata Metro lines

Hi Bodhisattwa!

Do you mind doing me a favour, and update the entries for green, orange and yellow lines to show the now operational sections, and the purple line to hide the bit under construction from Mominpur to Esplanade?

Best, NLBRT (talk) 12:03, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Publication date of Mahua

Why are you insisting on showing 1960 as publication date of this work? As per description of publication date (P577), it was the "date or point in time when a work was first published or released". The scan clearly identifies itself as a reprint, and the edition was of 1934. reprint (Q1962297) is re-publication, not publication. Therefore, please let me understand your reasoning for showing up a reprint as an edition. Hrishikes (talk) 04:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Q35760

You removed the fact that essay is a literary genre, without explanation, and a bot is now changing this to literary form. An essay is defined by the content and style of writing, not some particular structure. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, Understood. Thanks for the clarification. What would be the literary forms of essays, then? Also, I am confused about narration (Q3328821), which also is defined by the content rather than the structure, if I am not wrong. Will that be a literary form or genre and if it is a genre, what will be its form? -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

I would first need to know how it is different from narrative (Q1318295). Since narration (Q3328821) has only one Wikipedia article connected to it, I'm not sure what it is, or if it should be merged into something else. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, sure, kindly let me know, if any decisions are made. By the way, what would be the literary forms for essays? -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:25, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Their form would be short prose (Q1053765), though not fiction. That data item looks like it should not limit itself to fiction. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, there can be long essays, spanning hundreds of pages or comprising many chapters. I guess, prose (Q676) can be a better option, but its still is too generic. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:34, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, please see these recent changes, which has reverted your defined characteristics of essay as a literary genre. Can this be worked out as these frequent changes are affecting our way of handling metadata on Bangla Wikisource. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

I've started a conversation with that editor. To be a literary form, there would have to be some consistent and objective characteristics, and no paper or discussion I've seen provides any such characteristics aside from the fact that essays tend to be written in prose and are nonfiction. But those characteristics in themselves aren't enough to make something an essay, since many other kinds of writing are also prose and nonfiction. What distinguishes an essay is that the content of the writing centers on a single topic. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Regarding your new constraint at publisher (P123)

Shouldn't this be on place of publication (P291) and distributed by (P750) as well? Trade (talk) 00:43, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, I have added the constraint to place of publication (P291). Not sure about the distributed by (P750) though, as I have not used this property for bibliographic metadata. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Could i get you to join the discussion at User talk:BrokenSegue? @Bodhisattwa:--Trade (talk) 04:21, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, as the discussion is going on around musical data, I think, I will be of very little use there. As I mainly focus on bibliographical metadata, please feel free to add me to any conversation, related to that. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:29, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Ultimately what the question comes down to is the same: Do you think it's a good or bad idea to let bots remove or move certain constraint violations to lighten the heavy burden on Wikidata editors? Trade (talk) 04:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, I think, it is definitely a good idea for bots to do some heavy duty work to fix the constraint violations, if they follow the standard data models used by the community. I am sure, there are some bots which already do some of those tasks. For books, it has always been a pain for many of us to fix the constraints related to literary work (Q7725634) and version, edition or translation (Q3331189) and I understand the frustration which you have shared there in the talk page. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:39, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

If there is any constraint violations you want a bot to fix could you please list them on the talk page? (if you want something other than them deleted list so in parentheses)--Trade (talk) 05:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, sure, I will do that. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Also it would be helpful if you moved identifiers from Wikidata property to identify books (Q29547399) to Wikidata property to identify book editions (Q136747173) when applicable. It will make it much easier for us to know which identifier are appropriate on what items--Trade (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

By the way are we allowed to use distribution format (P437) on items about book series/franchises?--Trade (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

main subject

Please contribute to Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Books#Should_we_have_work/edition_constraints rather than just revert changes Vicarage (talk) 08:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

poems

I assume this edit is part of your clean-up projects, but I could be wrong. This edit left the item without a value for instance of (P31). I've added that value for this item, but there may be additional items that need a value because of the way the bot is making the change. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:28, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, I did not add any constraints for literary works on instance of (P31) as far as I can remember. That was from this edit by Harmonia. But, there is a replacement value (P9729) literary work (Q7725634) added in the constraint, which the bot should have picked up and added as instance of (P31). I am not sure, why it didn't, maybe you can notify the bot operator. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 03:07, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Date precision changes with references

Hi! When changing a date from year to day precision, you can't keep the same references - they only support the year. For example, see your edit and the bot's correction. Best practice is to add the day-date as a new value with its own references and mark it preferred, or else remove the year-date entirely before adding the day-date with correct references. Thanks!

(This is an automatic message generated by a bot to explain the correction.) DifoolBot (talk) 12:12, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026

Hello! I came across your name on a previous Wikimedia hackathon participant page, so I thought you might be interested in this.

We're organizing the Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026, taking place on 13–14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. It's a two-day, in-person hackathon for technical Wikimedians from the region.

Since you've attended a hackathon before, you already know how valuable these events can be for collaboration, learning, and getting things done together. We'd love to have you join us!

Apply here – registration closes mid-January or when full.

Feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Hope to see you in Arnhem! Daanvr (talk) 14:36, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

P9021

I notify you as the property proposer of P9021 (P9021) that I created a deletion request.

JhowieNitnek (talk) 12:20, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

International Mother Language Day 2026 Wikidata Datathon

Hello Bodhisattwa 👋🏼

Happy to invite you to participate in the International Mother Language Day 2026 Datathon, taking place from February 21 to March 3, 2026. This event is organized by WikiProject India in collaboration with Indian communities, aiming to celebrate linguistic diversity and contribute to Wikidata by enriching the content qulaity on Wikidata.

This is a great opportunity for both new and experienced contributors to engage with Wikidata and make a meaningful impact in promoting your native languages in the digital space.

If you're interested in joining, signup for the event by submitting your registration information here.

Let's come together to celebrate International Mother Language Day and strengthen multilingual representation on Wikidata. 🥳

For any questions or further details, feel free to reach out to me or post your query at the WikiProject India talk page.

Looking forward to your participation. 😊

Best regards,
User:Gnoeee 08:59, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

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Notability

Thank you for contributing to Wikidata. I see that you recently created an item that does not clearly indicate its notability. The Wikidata project only accepts items that meet its notability criteria, and your item is therefore likely to be deleted soon. In brief, items must have an associated Wikipedia article, must be needed for statements on another notable item, or must have both identifiers and serious sources. For the last case, a good indication of notability would be multiple articles about the subject in independent publications like newspapers or magazines. You can add such sources as references to specific claims using reference URL (P854), or as top-level claims using described at URL (P973).

Also, this may not apply in this specific case, but you should know that we discourage editors from self-promotion, contributing on topics with which they have a strong personal connection, as this may present a conflict of interest. If you are being paid to edit here, then you are obliged to disclose this. For a longer version, you might find it useful to read the essay "How to create an item on Wikidata so that it won't get deleted".  Bovlb (talk) 15:58, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Vande Mataram (Q137361018), Sanjay Bhattacharya (Q137370326), Phanibhushan Tarkabagish (Q137383099), Radharaman Ghosh (Q137385477), Rabindralal Roy (Q137427773), Rabindralal Roy (Q137427793), Q137794216, Q139820192, Q139820292, Q139820393, Q139820414, Q139820446, Samadhiprakash Aranya (Q139822645), Saralananda Sen (Q139824717), Sarada Prasanna Das (Q139884600), Q139996193, Sabitri Dutta (Q140193593), Sitesh Roy (Q140194097), Sukumar Dutta (Q140194118), Sukomal Basu (Q140194256), Sudin Kumar Mitra (Q140194359), Sudhakar Chattopadhyay (Q140194379), Q140197080, Sudhangshu Kumar Roy Chowdhury (Q140197116), Sudhangshu Gupta (Q140197119), Sudhangshu Madhab De (Q140197128), Sudhindranath Dutta (Q140197151), Sudhir Kumar Sen Chowdhury (Q140197216), Sudhir Ranjan Das (Q140197255), Sudhir Sarkar (Q140197271), Sunil Kumar Ghosh (Q140197303), Sunil Chakraborty (Q140197309), Subrata Chakraborty (Q140199109), Subimal Roy (Q140199141), Subodh Roy (Q140199886), Subodh Chandra Basu (Q140200735), Surendra Chakraborty (Q140232217), Surendranath Das (Q140232767), Surendranath Bandopadhyay (Q140232834), Q140235009, Surendranath Ghoshal (Q140235061), Q140235111, Suresh Chandra Chakraborty (Q140242040), Q140242225, Suresh Chandra Bandyopadhyay (Q140242491), Suresh Chandra Singha (Q140243681), Q140243863, Q140322484, Q140322692 Bovlb (talk) 15:58, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Bovlb:, I have been working on Bengali literary history and authors for a few years now. All your mention of Bengali authors are taken from Q140323833 - this edition of biographical dictionary. I have now added this edition as reference using stated in (P248), The literary works like Q140243863 are linked with corresponding editions using has version, edition or translation (P747) and version, edition or translation of (P629) and the editions are linked with Wikisource index pages using Wikisource index page URL (P1957), which means they have presence on Wikisource. In the new notability policy reform, it has been discussed that the presence of Wikisource index page URL (P1957) should establish notability of Wikisource books. I hope this resolves their notability issue, altogether. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm going to add P1957 to my list as a weak identifier. Thanks for the suggestion.

That leaves the following list: Q139996193, Q140197080, Q140235009, Q140235111, Q140242225, Q140243863, Q140322692, Q140323833 Bovlb (talk) 19:02, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Bovlb:, yeah all these items (except the first one Q139996193) are indirectly linked with Wikisource through Wikisource index page URL (P1957) as work-edition relationship. I have not worked on the first one yet, will link to Wikisource soon. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 19:07, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for fixing those! I checked again and found a few more: Q137794216, Q139820192, Q139820292, Q139820393, Q139820414, Q139820446, Q139996193, Sushanta Kumar Singha (Q140244758), Sushil Kumar Sen (Q140246928), Sushil Roy (Q140246943), Sushama Dasgupta (Q140246992), Surya Kumar Tarka Saraswati (Q140248393), Sneha Shobhana Debi (Q140306014), Snehakar Bhattacharya (Q140306024), Sourindranath Mitra (Q140308827), Hara Chandra Chowdhury (Q140319438), Haradayal Nag (Q140319456), Haricharan Gangopadhyay (Q140322536), Harijaban Goswami (Q140322573), Haridas Mitra (Q140323280), Q140323874 Bovlb (talk) 04:37, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

 Done - Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:17, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

birth dates, death dates

I cannot check your source for edits like at Subimal Roy (Q140199141), since it is not online, but all those 1 January dates are incorrect. Does the source give the value just as a year? Then you MUST give the precision as year, too! --Anvilaquarius (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

@Anvilaquarius:, thanks for notifying. I have corrected it. It was due to a faulty QS bacth. I have now checked the entire batch and corrected all the affected ones. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:22, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Great, thank you! --Anvilaquarius (talk) 17:30, 28 June 2026 (UTC)