Wikidata:Property proposal/Japan Location Database ID
Japanese Location Database ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier for entries in the Japanese Location Database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Japan Location Database (Q136687366) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Example 1 | Echizen Railway (Q1007890) → 180400028 |
| Example 2 | Ōno Castle (Q1072530) → 180400066 |
| Example 3 | Dōgo Onsen Honkan (Q11641713) → 380100001 (cf. en, zh) |
| Example 4 | Shikayose (Q137321683) → 290200143 |
| Example 5 | Hakodate Historical Museum of Photography (Q137321701) → 010400049 |
| Source | https://jl-db.nfaj.go.jp |
| Number of IDs in source | 12,774 filming location (Q1045481) (Japanese (Q5287)); 4,971 filming location (Q1045481) (English (Q1860)); 1,160 filming location (Q1045481) (Chinese (Q7850)) |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) / eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://jl-db.nfaj.go.jp/location/$1 |
Motivation
[edit]A high-quality external identifier (Q21754218) with entries in Japanese (Q5287), English (Q1860), and Chinese (Q7850); as in example 1, there are some entries broader than mere "places"; while I believe there is a preference for an English-language default where possible, I suggest defaulting to the Japanese for the formatter URL as there are many more entries in Japanese than either English (+"/en") or Chinese (+"/zhcn") (one can then toggle between available languages at the top of the page); thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:23, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Discussion
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Notified participants of WikiProject Japan Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 18:27, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @ZI Jony, thanks for the ping.
- Hello, Maculosae tegmine lyncis, I am new to discussing nomination, and would you guide me what is the subject/poll here? Are we to discuss feasibility of a new data source, which is still to have its own QID?
- I read the url and the publisher is a non-profit film commission, or a body supporting a specific sector of users: people among film/movie/video, and perhaps audio industry as well.
- If you'd better gather data to support/fill parameters, I will be available midweek or 12 December 2025 (: Added params to the publisher for 全国ロケーションデータベース (Q136687366). Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 03:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, as with the two new examples I have added (4 & 5), the idea is to use this property (if the proposal is supported and approved) as an external identifier (Q21754218) to reference existing and support the creation of new Wikidata item (Q16222597); perhaps this Wikidata property proposal (Q114746893) should be listed under the topic "Place" or "Generic" as the items are quite diffuse; part of the value of the identifier is its multi-lingual nature, as (semi-)official English (and Chinese) names are not always readily available; there are also typically photos and short descriptions, maps, etc; its function specifically in relation to filming location (Q1045481) per se is perhaps secondary; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 05:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Omotecho, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 16:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you @Maculosae tegmine lyncis for clarification:
Support I support the idea to have Japan-focused source of information.- I guess it calls for separate thread: How about the governing NFAJ, a GLAM parent institute, if we talk about films/movies/cinema released in Japan?[1]
- NFAJ's Collection and Articles
- OPAC Search for films https://opac.nfaj.go.jp/opac/opac_search/?lang=1
- NFAJ Film Collection Search http://nfad.nfaj.go.jp/ (in Japanese)
- also offers data for films with English subtitles.
- NFAJ Digital Gallery https://www.nfaj.go.jp/onlineservice/digital-gallery/
- Japanese Animated Film Classics http://animation.filmarchives.jp/en
- With the first public movie show took place in 1917.
- 64 videos: early Japanese animations from our collection are shown in the site.
- "Noburo Ofuji Memorial Museum", a page you find old documents, leaflets and production materials: Ofuji is the artist who donated his private collection to the NFAJ.
- Others ← JL-DB
- Japanese Film Resources Online (JFROL) https://jfrol.jp (in Japanese)
- JFROL is a search system for locating non-film materials. Cross-search the non-film collections of the following institutions:
- Toei Kyoto Studio Park Library;
- Shochiku Otani Library,
- Kawakita Memorial Film Institute,
- Matsunaga Bunko Library of Kitakyushu, and
- the Tsubouchi Memorial Theatre Museum of Waseda University.
- [1] https://www.nfaj.go.jp/english/onlineservice/ They hold fliers and booklets film theaters sold/circulated to movie goers, since 1900.
- --Omotecho (talk) 18:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Omotecho, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 16:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, as with the two new examples I have added (4 & 5), the idea is to use this property (if the proposal is supported and approved) as an external identifier (Q21754218) to reference existing and support the creation of new Wikidata item (Q16222597); perhaps this Wikidata property proposal (Q114746893) should be listed under the topic "Place" or "Generic" as the items are quite diffuse; part of the value of the identifier is its multi-lingual nature, as (semi-)official English (and Chinese) names are not always readily available; there are also typically photos and short descriptions, maps, etc; its function specifically in relation to filming location (Q1045481) per se is perhaps secondary; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 05:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Omotecho: I wondered if a NFAJ Film Collection ID property might be in order along the lines of BFI National Archive work ID (P2703); however, with this BFI ID, as in use eg on Robin Hood (Q19090) ([1]), the BFI entry is about the film itself (in this case, seemingly the BFI itself has no related material in its archive, only this information); by contrast, for Late Spring (Q743203), the National Film Archive of Japan (Q51371009) search system returns two entries, for a 35 mm film (Q226528) print [2], and for a 16 mm film (Q194383) print [3]; the スタッフ/cast listing is quite comprehensive, including the シテ and ワキ in the Noh scene, so perhaps it would be a useful identifier anyway (information such as フィート長 is presumably specific to the (in)complete print in the collection, but the cast list would make the identifier relevant to the main Late Spring (Q743203) item, not merely a subsidiary version, edition or translation of (P629) or equivalent print of item for these particular prints), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Maculosae tegmine lyncis, well comprehended on my side: Thank you contrasting with BFI National Archive work ID (P2703) very much, it cleared my uncertainty or confusion. (: Omotecho (talk) 04:21, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
