Let's see if this setup rings any bells. The world is on the brink of collapse at the hands of a demon king and his armies of underworld minions. To save it, a hero of legend must recruit four Divine Beasts Flame Lords to strengthen their attack and bring the fight to the big bad, all while navigating an enemy-filled fantasy land and countless instances of weapon degradation. Feels familiar, no?
Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave has a hefty dose of Breath of the Wild in its narrative, a pinch of Persona in its inter-battle antics, and a good amount of its spiritual predecessor, Three Houses, in everything in between. It's nothing new for either the series or wider gaming, and it's not a road without its share of bumps, but if you're after a dense, tactical, and very, very meaty RPG to lose days to, Fortune's Weave will more than satisfy you.

Just in case the multiple trailers, the standalone Direct, and the daily Nintendo Today updates have passed you by, allow me to provide a brief refresher on what this one is all about.
The year is 1449, and the kingdom of Dagda is preparing to throw its annual fighting tournament, The Heroic Games. The winner is granted one wish of their choosing, a prospect tempting enough to attract fighters from all over the region, keen on taking the top spot.
Among the hopefuls are Cai, a boy hoping to free his father from imprisonment; Leda, a dancer seeking revenge; Deitrich, a brooding swordsman after one final hunt; and Theodora, a ruler attempting to spread her god’s good name. These are our four protagonists, each equipped with their own storylines, mechanics, and recruitable hopefuls.
But there’s more. These are not the true hero of Fortune’s Weave. Above all of this sits Eshmel, ‘The Promised One’, who, through all manner of time-hopping shenanigans, is altering the timelines for each of the four Heroic Games hopefuls.

You see, five years in the future, Eshmel needs all the help he can get. The world has gone to pot at the hands of a demon god, and The Promised One needs to make sure this quartet of prospective Flame Lords can live up to the challenge.
It’s an interesting little setup, divided into three narrative acts. The first follows one of the four heroes through the games, encompassing their individual stories, training, and team recruitment. The second throws things into all-out war, as the fun and games of the celebrations are eclipsed by a rising threat from the region’s capital, Dagsion. Act three dials up the drama to 11, with all the remaining heroes teaming up with Eshmel to take on the Big Bad with whom the narrative began.
The dialogue is all of a classic Fire Emblem flair (there’s no room for a lot of subtlety here), but as long as you go in looking for that sexy anime melodrama, you won’t be disappointed.

Those who played Three Houses might notice some similarities in the story structure and ever-increasing stakes. The big change this time around is that you don’t need to play through a set character’s entire story before starting again from a different perspective. At near-enough any point in the game, you can return to Eshmel’s time with the world on the brink of collapse, and dive into another character’s storyline — a welcome addition, because come the end game, when all timelines coalesce on a common goal, you’ll want as many heroes by your side as you can muster.
The character switching is wonderful, and throughout my ~80-hour playtime, I was constantly flitting between them, wrapping up three of the heroes’ arcs in their entirety before heading to the final boss. There is the option to head straight to the finale with Eshmel alone (something I’m sure those far more skilled than me will muster), though even with three-quarters of the fully-powered heroes on my side, I still found the final act challenging.
It’s not a structure without its flaws, mind you. Having so many storylines, complete with their own introductions, climaxes, and tutorials in the opening act, means that the pacing takes a bit of a dive in parts two and three. There is a lot to do in this game, and while it all feels fresh and exciting to start off, I found some noticeable narrative drags once I made it out of each character’s honeymoon phase.
I’m also not completely sold on the whole ‘surprise protagonist’ idea. Leda, Cai, Deitrich, and Theodora bring more than enough development and complexity to the story — some (Deitrich, my favourite) are stronger than others (Leda, my least), obviously. Having a mostly silent fifth hero above it all just feels a little unnecessary. Why would I care about this guy when I’ve spent all 40+ hours of Act 1 getting to know the other four?
I’ll give a quick shoutout to the recruitable heroes, though, because by jove, their sheer density is nothing short of impressive. There are over 80 outrageously good-looking NPCs, by my count, all of which are fully voiced with stories and motivations of their own, and most of them can be brought into your team to offer a unique skill in battle.
In true Fire Emblem form, the characteristics are generally as fully fleshed as “Grr, I want revenge,” or “Tee hee, I love to serve my master,” but they do all feel like proper individuals, and I didn’t want to see any of them bite the dust. Praise be for the option to switch between permadeath and casual modes.

It’s not all narrative, of course. Fire Emblem has always been about the gameplay, for me, and Fortune’s Weave doesn’t disappoint in this respect. The inter-battle activities that I previously found so off-putting in Three Houses (it’s one of the reasons I preferred Engage — come at me) all return here, but they feel like they gel so well with the army-building vibes of the whole thing that I completely lost myself to them this time.
Meal-sharing, theatre trips, and combat training are one thing, but Fortune’s Weave also offers up a huge world map to explore between battles. The overworld is awash with merchants, Shadows of Valentia-style explorable dungeons and other, smaller cities to explore. Each promises unique item pickups, experience points, or information that will improve your chances in the arena.
It’s an almighty undertaking, slightly let down by a unique turn-based map control system, which, while absolutely in keeping with the world, regularly makes progression far slower than it needs to be. Your units can only move so far and perform so many actions in any one ‘turn’ (a portion of a day), you see.

While I respect the dedication to the turn-based bit, such navigation gradually grated on me the longer I played, as the map expanded in scope and I began to control more units on it in any one turn. Added ‘move all’, ‘auto-travel’, or ‘Pin items’ functions would make things far more approachable.
Still, there’s something very Persona-y about the whole thing: getting a set number of days until your next battle, and using them to the fullest is super satisfying. All the downtime is skippable, worry not, with your characters being suitably levelled up automatically, but if even someone as tea party-averse as me can lose hours building up a connection over the perfect sandwich and gifts, then you know it’s doing something right.
The battles themselves are sublime. Fire Emblem has never been lacking in the tactical department, but this might just be the strongest iteration of the gameplay. It’s the same fundamentals that were fine-tuned in Engage, with a handful of new mechanics to spice things up. Each of the main heroes has their own Blaze Art abilities which provide a welcome buff in combat, at the cost of the heroes’ HP.

It’s a neat bit of risk/reward that also appears in every character’s Combat Art abilities — attack modifiers that degrade the selected weapon in the process.
It’s not quite as simple as the classic weapons triangle (which, itself, is complicated this time around, not least by the inclusion of nuns with guns), but with hundreds — yes, hundreds — of battles to use them in, I got my head around the new systems soon enough.
For something a little less conventional, Fortune’s Weave also introduces new Clash Battle encounters, which play out like a standard turn-based RPG battle rather than the usual grid system.
This introduces a whole tactical system of its own, with Link Attacks and other combo opportunities to get your head around. They fell a bit flat for me (and they crop up with such frequency in the late-game that I tended to use the Auto-Battle option for most of them), but I respect the attempt to inject something new into a combat system that only has so much room for development.

It all plays with the expected level of sheen on Switch 2. While not as visually impressive as a Donkey Kong Bananza or a Star Fox, Dagsion is packed with charm and enough moving, talking NPCs to put Pokémon Legends: Z-A’s Lumiose City to shame. There are minimal ‘opening door’ loading screens between the city’s three massive tiers, too, which is always a welcome sight.
The controls have a nice snappiness to them, making navigating the battle menus a breeze, and there’s a Mouse Mode addition for all those who really want to point and click — I’m still not convinced by that control scheme as a whole, but hey, I appreciate Nintendo’s stubbornness for adding it to every game, at this point. And no, you won't find any in-battle touch controls here (something I've personally longed for since Into The Breach), though I suppose the systems are a little too complex for chunky fingers like mine.
Conclusion
On the whole, Fire Emblem: Fortune’s Weave is dense, deep, and really rather delightful. It can sometimes feel like a bit too much of a good thing, with the pacing slipping in the later chapters, thanks to an unnecessarily complicated protagonist hierarchy and some grindy map management, but the battles have never felt better, and there’s no knocking the sheer amount to do.
It takes a lot for a game to hold my attention for as long as Fortune’s Weave, and with a bunch of content still waiting for me, I’ll be happy to pour even more days into it.





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Hopefully I enjoy this more than Engage because that was definitely not a 9 out of 10 game.
Not reading the review yet cos I don't want to spoil the story in any way, but I'm so excited to play this tomorrow. It's my most anticipated Switch 2 game so far.
It is raining 9s and 10s except Nintendo life?
Interesting review and indeed the review scores will now become a hot topic. I just read one of the 10/10 reviews so it’s interesting to see how the sheer scope of the game is either a good thing or bad thing depending on preference.
Surprised it’s an 8/10 from NL but higher elsewhere. 8 is still great obviously just usually the other way around. But really, anything is better than Engage.
To be honest, I was fully planning to buy this before direct. But "You are the true protagonist", demon god and a hundred of activities between me and SRPG gameplay firmly pushed me into "wait a couple of years for a hefty discount" zone.
@Joker1234 IMO Engage had 10/10 gameplay and presentation, and a 8/10 story, so the 9/10 score felt fair to me. Certainly the story and the character arcs weren't as interesting as in Three Houses, but the moment-to-moment gameplay was super fun. I'm hoping this one can bring together the snappier gameplay of Engage with the more complex shades-of-gray plotting of Three Houses.
It looks like they took the kitchen-sink approach. I was afraid this was going to happen.
Broadly scoring similarly to Three Houses, but with what we know is vastly improved performance and a superior approach to multiple routes.
Welcome back, Fire Emblem. This is one of the main games I bought my Switch 2 for.
Currently a 89 on Metacritic, the exact same score Three Houses got
@Bahamut_GR So your just going to ignore other reviews giving it perfect to near perfect scores?
Can't wait to dive into this one tomorrow. Quite the year of JRPGs.
Cheers for the review.
I'v read a couple of other stellar reviews elsewhere too (one 9/10 and one 5/5) and the game is metacritic'ing at 89% at the moment from 53 reviews at time of writing.
Really looking forward to it. I liked Engage but glad to read it's a return to "this kind of Fire Emblem"
@illmatic20xx I want to buy it and I am waiting for more reviews to come. I'm not a hater. I have both 3 Houses and Engage, but I had issues with the monastery repetition in 3 Houses. That's why I'm kind of cautious.
Excited to get my copy tomorrow!!!! Because my pre order status on my phone says it's ready for delivery!
@Polvasti The story wasn't definitely not 8/10 at least for me. I thought the story, characters and worldbuilding was absolutely lackluster but the gameplay being the only highlight.
Thanks for the review, this along with the Ask the Developer which I've just finished reading further confirms what I've been saying, it's Three Houses combined with mechanics from past Fire Emblem games and some aspects new to the series that address issues people had with that game etc. so unsurprisingly it's overall great or better (as already mentioned here in the comments it's currently at 89 on Metacritic as most rated it even higher than Nintendo Life) - so looking forward to starting it myself as soon as my copy arrives hopefully tomorrow as planned!
11 out of 45 critics gave the game a Perfect score!!! Impressive!
It's probably going to be at least 1 point higher for me, personally, I can just tell from what I've seen. I'm surprised at the 8/10 scoring here, but hey that's not saying the game is bad in any way.
Also, we knew about the fifth protagonist from the start, so why make it a point in the cons?
@Bahamut_GR You don't need to worry about that repetition as you don't need to replay the early sections for every route in Fortune's Weave.
Interesting how no mention was made of performance, unless I somehow missed it. 60fps? 30fps? Wavering? I know fps isn’t a HUGE consideration given the nature of the game, but no mention at all?
I think the criticisms are fair and well presented, but I do find it funny that Nintendo life of all reviewers have given this one of the lowest scores.
Fingers crossed that this game actually doesn't get screwed over at the Game Awards..........again.
Haven't delved into the full review, but those cons don't strike me as enough to knock it down to an 8. Sounds like it was just too much for the reviewer on this occasion but on another week they might give it a 9.
"Too much of a good thing" can be condensed down to "Too good".
Do we have our new "Too much water"?
Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave - 8/10 Too good - NintendoLife
@Polvasti Reviews are generally spoiler free so I’m not sure why you’re so concerned.
IGN gave it a 10/10
https://www.ign.com/games/fire-emblem-fortunes-weave/reviews
Going to enjoy this game a lot.
I'm worried I just won't have time to play this. 80 hours doesn't sound impossible, but I tend to take my time with games, and 3 Houses took 100s of hours that I don't have anymore! Perhaps the revamped approach to multiple stories is more determined this time.
Trails 2nd Chapter will have me occupied first.
@Joker1234
Yeah. I’d say I was super happy that I could skip most of Enage’s fluff and just do the battles for the most part.
As someone who spent a good amount of time with Houses but didn’t care for the battles, to then enjoying Engage’s battles but not spending a lot of time with the game…hopefully this game bridges the best of both
@TimeGuy Apparently there is some kind of a time skip in this game just like there was in Three Houses, and by skimming the review text I noticed the reviewer was talking about it, so it's not completely spoiler-free. Reading the reviews before playing the game spoiled that part of Three Houses' plot for me, so I don't want the same to happen with Fortune's Weave.
This game is not for me so hope this game doing well continue in the Franchise. Can't wait for Zelda: Ocarina of Time remake!!
"It can sometimes feel like a bit too much of a good thing".
Sounds like a false problem...
Nintendo Life gave Engage a 9/10 and that was no 9/10 game so I cant take this review seriously
This game got the same score as Wolverine when Push Square (= same publisher) reviewed it and therefore, will have the same impact on the metacritic score overall.
Crazy how Nintendo Life is one of the outlets that dislike the most Nintendo games in general.
Can you imagine lowering a game for having a lot of content? Too much value for you?
Tonight I finish Fire Emblem on the GameCube and tomorrow I hope this game is on par with 3 houses.
@Oldstalk I was watching someone play Wolverine on YouTube and it's one of the lamest games I've seen in decades.
Is it me, or the Switch 2 games reviews (including Fire Emblem Fortune's Weave here) doesn't include an icon of the Switch 2 (handheld) or Dock (TV mode) like the Switch 1 games used to?
Sorry if it's slighty off-topic, but I miss this details!
It's not a must every Nintendo will be a 9 or 10 😊
"In true Fire Emblem form, the characteristics are generally as fully fleshed as “Grr, I want revenge,” or “Tee hee, I love to serve my master,” but they do all feel like proper individuals, and I didn’t want to see any of them bite the dust".
Nice, but is there a " Tee hee, I want revenge" type?
Eating good this week with this, Wolverine and Lego Batman DLC.
This looks 1000x better than Engage, I can’t wait to dive in
Eurogamer gave it a 5 out of 5. That's 3 perfect score by my count. This is getting an 89 currently on metacritic.
It's crazy how obsessed some people are by Metacritic and the aggregate score over there. Game reviews (like any form of criticism) are informed opinions, they're not some kind of sport where the title that gets the best average score "wins". Just read well-written reviews by publications and critics you trust and consider whether the pros and cons mentioned there are of the sort that would affect your enjoyment of the game. That's all there is to it. Getting angry at some reviewer for being honest about their opinions and giving a game a lower score than some other publications, therefore lowering the Sacred Metascore a bit, is absurd internet mob mentality.
Sorry 15 perfect scores on metacritic.
@Polvasti I don't think is obsessive to check what people are saying. The more that say a game is great the less likely you're going to regret purchasing it. It's no guarantee, but you're crazy if you're not happy to see good scores for a game you want.
@repsahj Different people have different opinions?
@Misima It's not crazy to check what the critics are saying, but IMO it's crazy to obsess over the numbers. If you don't read the actual reviews to find out where the critics are coming from with their opinions, then the numbers are meaningless. That's why some publications don't even give numerical scores.
Man, it seems half the people didn't even bother reading the review & just caring about a silly number
This is why I wish publications do away with review scores...
Cannot wait for tomorrow. This will probably be my game of the year for me.
Bit harsh comparing the game to PLZA which is not a native SW2 game but a Switch 2 Edition game
"as long as you go in looking for that sexy anime melodrama"
Appreciate this line because it's kinda what I didn't like about Three Houses. It was my first FE game and I ended up pushing for the end realising nothing about the story had gripped me. I only later learned character drama is what people love most about the series.
The gameplay was pretty fun though.
@roy130390
Retired ninja turned chief maid of household, happy to serve a peaceful role in a peaceful life. . . until overwhelming enemies turn out and slaughter the entire family and house. Now, as sole survivor, returns to the trade of her youth to wash the failure from her hands with the blood of the perpetrators. . .
Me, I'm all for sexy anime melodrama, so that sounds great.
First time, that I can remember, where Nintendo Life gave a Nintendo AAA game a lower score than most. But yeah that is expected when the reviewer already preferred Engage over Three Houses, and this is Three Houses on steroids.So it feels consistent.
Anyways, this finally looks like the first day one game for me on Switch 2 in over a year!
People are dropping points because the game is large wtf
@Joker1234 what? can't remember fire emblem Colgate received such high, undeserved praise. After such a highlight like three houses, engage was a nightmare when it comes to story, characters and side activities. The tactical battle gameplay was solid however.
@Oldstalk ?? I have always found it to be the exact opposite. Nintendo Life tends to score Nintendo AAA higher than the average Metacritic most of the times.
This is one of the rare exceptions only because the review was written by a person who has reiterated to dislike Three Houses outside of combat and prefers Engage many times in the past.
Making him review this Three Houses game on steroids just had the expected outcome then.
But if you read the review, he loved the combat and I am all in for the rest too.
@gcunit
I suspect the underlying issue is that extremely long and dense games will tend to get worse review scores than average, because long and dense games are hard to review on a deadline.
Could be a while before I play this…..due to packed line up over the coming months.
But pacing issues is a common fire emblem issue.
A reviewer that preferred engage to three houses should not have been given this one to review
I'm a bit busy to dig into reviews, but I am shocked NL is lower then the 89-90 average. Usually this website is a bit biased upward. I am glad it came out as good as it did, though. Hopefully there are no glitches with my collector's edition pre-order. I registered for store pick up tomorrow.
There are always metacritic envoys. Always.
@scoobdoo
Yeah I feel like they will never live down this review if the game moves on to become a big success. Time will tell.
Review sounds a bit lifeless. I mean the way the review is written. Aka it sounds like the author is a bit tired or didn't really had a connection to the game.
@Dalamar You gotta be kidding me. 😅😅
Is there romance? I feel like nobody has answered this yet lol
I'm ready! I'm ready! I'm ready!!!!
“Let's see if this setup rings any bells. The world is on the brink of collapse at the hands of a demon king and his armies of underworld minions.”
Yes, that does ring some bells…
Reminds me an awful lot of… the news. :/
I like Fire Emblem, but only for the battle gameplay. I dont like story, I dont like activities, I dont like a lot of stuff between the battles.
Thats why I love Advance Wars, and Fire Emblem Engage.
Only the battles matter.
I dont know if i'll buy this one (future). I did not buy FF: 3-Houses because the stuff between the battles. Too slow for me.
Appreciate this as someone who prefers Engage to Three Houses. Perfect fire emblem for me would have virtually no story or life sim / anime romance at all. Like playing the GBA games and completely skipping through dialogue.
With the narrative and gameplay improvements over Three Houses, and the ability to play the full game without four poorly written paths, and the presence of a respectable story, which Engage lacked to its detriment, scoring this game lower than both of those two is laughable. Thankfully, most other reviewers are in the 9/10 range, far from the abysmal Engage and Three Hopes, on par with Three Houses.
I always disliked complaining about pacing. No game is high octane action all the time. Even the most intense action games have slowdown times.
@scoobdoo disagree. Perspective is good. You’ll find plenty who hold the opposing view, I’m sure
Is it correct that the game once again is not launching with maddening(/lunatic) difficulty? Because then I am definitely going to wait for that respective patch. I'm kinda traumatized by growing bored with 3H and having to restart from scratch after the patch like 2 months later. That was frustrating and a waste of time.
PS: I do hope they will alternative between battle-focused entries and these persona-lite entries. Personally, I prefer the former, although Engage suffered from designs, tone and plotting that belonged in a different type of game, but not in a slaughter simulator.
Oof, 8 will start fires. But, glad to hear it's great. I've never clicked with FE games or really most strategy titles. But I also have only ever played older FE games on retro services. It would be cool if they put out a demo for this, so people could taste it and see. Thanks for the review!
@WaddleDee Eww, back under your rock. Engage lovers will not be tolerated here!
I'm kidding, of course. Engage had some of the best gameplay in the series, but the character development, story, romance options, and DLC were alm huge letdowns, in my opinion. Unfortunately, I think your preferred idea for FE is from a time long past. You may need to stick to the old games or seek a new series. I don't see post Awakening FE regressing.
it will be a 10/10 for me whenever I play it. I LOVE fire emblem so i'm biased lol.
I won't read the review so I can go in blind when its time for me to play!
@Dalamar hefty discount and Nintendo are 2 words that do not go together
@eaglebob345 While Engage was by no means perfect, you didn’t need to spend too much time in the area between battles or any of those mechanics. Like the commenter above, I’d be more than happy if they alternate styles like this. And pretty regularly replay some of the earlier titles
Like with any review it's always personal opinion and I respect the writers opinion. I'm hyped for this game regardless, Fire Emblem is always a day one purchase for me.
@scoobdoo I actually kinda agree with the sentiment. The game follows the path of Three Houses rather than Engage. Those games went in two very different directions. It's like having someone who prefers OG SMT review Persona, then they complain about all the romance.
NintendoLife scores continue to be criminally low. 10/10 from IGN, VGC, and Eurogamer.
Very excited for this! Three houses was one of my favorite Switch games of all time. I played through that 5 times lol.
@Automated_Unit_4937 in eshop, yes. But retailers discount physical versions by themselves.
@WaddleDee I wouldn't mind if they alternated styles, but I definitely don't want to be burned with another Engage. I would prefer if they quit making split paths like Engage did, but gave us a story and characters as robust as Three Houses. This game kinda does both, split paths that converge into one, but I would prefer 40 hours of linear story vs 80 hours of the same story told four times.
I'm not even super into FE but these reviews are hard to ignore......
Let's get pumped for 9 more sword fighters in the next Smash!
@repsahj Nothing wrong with that. They have their own opinion on it.
It's a 10/10 for me. Got my special edition arriving on Monday. I know Alex will have to follow the script for his review video, but I hope he comes in at the end with his personal thoughts on the game and scores this a 10 on his part.
Commenters here know Nintendolife does a separate article for review roundups and aggregation right? The amount of discussion I see here about other review scores boggles the mind. Are people reading them or just looking at numbers?
The only perspective in this review I disagree with is “a combat system that only has so much room for development.” I only loosely follow the Fire Emblem romhacking and indie tactics scenes but they seem endlessly innovative with grid-based combat. But that’s even more to the larger point that Clash battles look un-Fire Emblem and not very interesting.
Excited for this game but pacing and feature creep are definitely concerns I have. I plan to start with 1 or 2 routes and a lighter touch on the map gameplay.
Hell yea everyone, we’re here!! I think the wife and kids will be going out tomorrow night so after work, I’ll be diving in for a good while
currently 89 on metacritic..
8 here while getting 10s from other gaming sites seems legit.
@Diowine that kind of shows bias from that reviewer then which this game is far better then 3 houses in every way.
@WaddleDee Several other reviews have noted that you can skip over all the between fight stuff and the game will just assign stat boosts and experience and things as though you'd used the time to train your party. It seems you only need to engage in that stuff if you really want to explore the world and deep dive the tinkering aspects. So you can definitely still play it as just a slaughter simulator. And it seems like there are a bunch of really creative levels this time around.
@milonorth funnily enough of all the things in Engage that made me drop it, it was the godaweful menu system/inventory management.
@repsahj NintendoLife has become anhedonic in recent years. They typically review Nintendo games lower than most critics.
I kind of feel like Fire Emblem just isn't for me anymore. I used to love this series, but Three Houses just wasn't it, and this one seems to double down on the problems I had with that game. There is such a thing as too much content. Engage was much better, so I was hoping things were moving in the right direction, but it seems that just isn't case unfortunately.
I always like me some Fire Emblem and I'm looking forward to picking this up this week. Hopefully we get another Fire Emblem Warriors game too.
@kal_el_07241 8 out of 10 is being anhedonic? interesting take there.
@ZonaiResearcher For now I just do an +1 to the overall score on reviews of this site.
@Polvasti It was mentioned in Nintendo’s coverage leading up to release. They clearly don’t consider it a huge spoiler.
Switch Wars, please.
@TimeGuy I know, that's why I skipped the FE Direct, cos I figured it might spoil plot points like that. Even if Nintendo doesn't consider it a big spoiler, I prefer to experience the story as fresh as possible.
@MARl0
I feel the exact same way. the old games are cool, Awakening is cool... Three Houses was massively disappointing and I just kinda ignored Engage tbh.
I would love to see a new Wars game though! And the utterly pointless "Re-Boot" does not count.
@MARl0
That's interesting. I loved both games. My 3H Edelgard playthrough took about 80 hours (no DLC) -> I actually just went back and did the DLC this summer, and I really like the Abyss characters. Somehow I finished Engage in 150 hours (all DLC included), so it was not a shorter game for me.
Am I the rare person that appreciates having two different spins on this series on Switch? It's like having children, you can love them all, but recognize they are not identical.
@-wc-
One thing I like about the old games (I tried to catch up this year with Path of Radiance, the two GBA games, and the 3H DLC) is they give more thought into positioning, like a chess board. I miss the rescue and shove mechanics. I am currently bogged down in Radiant Dawn on Wii. I won't be able to finish it in time for my Fortune's Weave physical game arrival date, and I wonder if I will get back to it anytime soon.
I love both Three Houses and Engage for totally different reasons. It's good we get different games, I hate a series where every game feels the same reskin job.
@Polvasti
I look at the summaries as to why it lost points. If the reason it lost points does not matter to me personally, I give it a head canon higher score.
For example, when I bought my Sony TV several years ago, the review score was a bit lower than others. However, when I looked at the subscores, it lost the most points for poor viewing angle. The way my room is set up with a long rectangular shape, that was not an issue. So I disregarded that subscore, and gave it my own personal higher rating, thus saving some money on a feature other TVs scored higher, but I didn't need.
Similarly (and no hate reactions please), I got an iPhone Air last year, fully aware that it had points knocked off for single camera and mono speaker. Since those issues don't matter to me, I rated it higher. I appreciate the grip and low weight compared to the chunky phones the rest of my family use. It also helped that I got the phone through my work, so the price point compared to the regular iPhone was not a barrier.
@RickStar
Yes I fully agree. Fire Emblem has so many samey elements, that if we just got the same exact game every few years on newer hardware, it would go stale.
Just being able to debate Three Houses versus Engage is something that adds gravitas to the series, as long as people keep it civil.
I have yet to read the review, but a 8 is a little bit dissapointing (I expected a 9 at least). Anyway, will find out soon enough when I start playing.
8/10???
I wish PJ reviewed this game instead. His 9/10 review on Engage was spot on.
NL coverage of Fortune's Weave was also lackluster. As a Supporter, I am disappointed.
Guys, are you being spiteful for not getting news about a new Mario game to give it a 8/10? 😂
why are people acting like 8/10 ("Great") is a bad score?
I was sold even before reading any reviews, but overall this is about what I expected. I agree from trailers that Eshmel does seem unnecessary after we have four other fully fleshed main protagonists; I see him/her as a vehicle to move things along. While I'm glad the game is VERY meaty, it sounds like I'll need to take a short break partway through so I don't get too overwhelmed. I prefer its route branch approach over Three Houses though. At least on paper.
Certainly a game I'll get down the line. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I have some catching up to do in this series first. I plan to jump into Three Houses again shortly.
...On a related note, I'm starting to understand why more sites are going away from numbered scores.
@UpsideDownRowlet Because they give 9/10 to ***** games like "Thanks goodness you're here" and the likes
But somehow, Nintendo must achieve some hidden standards we don't know of, when their games are among the most polished on the market (something that usually gets the highest praise whenever another publisher manage to achieve it, but having a bug free, stable framerate experience with Nintendo is expected and rarely noted).
I mean, scores are obviously all subjective, but the review reads more like a 9. The one main “complaint” I’m seeing from most reviews is it’s too big/could be bit grindy🤣🤣 I’m all for more streamlined games but if this is gonna entertain me for months and give back as much as I put in, I’m sold☘️☘️
@UpsideDownRowlet well Wolverine got lots of 8’s and the internet went into meltdown🤣🤣 But I agree, 8 for any game usually means it’s decent
@UpsideDownRowlet If you see what games they give higher scores... but since the Switch 2 release Nintendo first party games have been getting -1 or even -2 scores on this site compared to the critic average.
And I already have decided. I will skip Nintendolife the first 10 days of november.
@Polvasti 10/10 Presentation??!!! That's definitely a hot take.
Gameplay is easily a 10/10, but presentation specifically is it's most criticized element.
@ShadLink This is super fair.
I'm going to just log off the internet until I've had my time to enjoy the game untainted.
@Oldstalk You're making a comparison to two completely different games reviewed by completely different people. This isn't even apples to oranges, it's apples to porkchops. Try to fixate less on the arbitrary numerical score and just read the review and decide for yourself how much you care about the various pros and cons listed.
@Raffwaff79 With that game, I honestly don't know what people want. I've seen people complain it's too high, since it's apparently very handholdy, but I've also seen people say it's being rated too low.
@ShadLink You are complaining that different critics vary in their review. Surprise surprise: different people have different perspectives on the same game. Also, it's not even true that Nintendo Life has been extra harsh on Nintendo games. Many games have received 9/10's (Splatoon Raiders, Star Fox, Metroid Prime 4, Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza), and in the case of MP4, they went above the critic average in that score. Lower scores are often in keeping with the general critic average, with some marginal differences. The only major differences in score has been for Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, as far as I can tell, which even then was just 2 points then the average. This is a complete non-issue. As I said to Oldstalk, it's best to actually read the review rather than fixate on the numerical score. If you just don't want to read reviews, that's perfectly reasonable as well. If you want to play a game, you don't need reviewed permission to get it.
I stalled badly on Three Houses thanks to the sheer amount of busywork I felt compelled to do between battles, but I fully appreciate that's more to do with my own OCD tendencies than any true fault on the game's part. Seems like this might be even worse in that regard, and as such may well be destined to go down in the history books as the DK64 of the Fire Emblem series.
@UpsideDownRowlet No I'm not talking about differences in reviews. I am talking about being below average in review. If someone gives a review a 4 and everyone else gives it an 9. Then you can easily tell that the reviewer either didn't understand or like the game. Those reviews can easily be ignored. If a review is an 8 and the average is a 9, then, for me at least, that reviewer is trying to lower the average.
And yes. I am going to stop going here around big releases from now on. Because I know the reviews do affect the perception I have of a game to a certain degree. Well at least it did until I played Pokémon Legends Z-A. Where I disagree the most with the NL review.
Just find it interesting how Nintendo Life developed a reputation for giving review scores higher than the general consensus for Nintendo games (still think it's wild Battle League got a 9/10 on here), but as of late reviews have often been skewing lower
@repsahj I am so tired of these “Most outlets give this game a score of xx, why is this website giving it a yy?” postings.
Every reviewer has their own subjective impressions of cultural products like games, and I support that.
Except these embarrassing 9/10 for Metroid Prime 4…
@UpsideDownRowlet
For me, it has far more to do with the lack of hype leading up to the review score. That compels me to trust this review less than others. Sure, 8 out of 10 isn't a low number... and 8 rhymes with the word Great but...
NL didn't even bother to link the Fortune's Weave Nintendo Treehouse, after the most recent Direct. That was over an hour of gameplay footage, never even talked about on this site.
8/10 is a very respectable score. I could see how a 5th protagonist could ruin the game, it's actually the biggest turn-off why I am definitely not getting this one.
@Max_the_German prime 4 wasn't a bad game so 9 was justified cause a few nitpicks doesn't bring down the whole game.
@Axecon except the fact the reviewer was being a little bias in this review comparing weave to three houses which there's a big difference between the two while three houses is still a good game but had graphical issues that kind of hurt its replay value while weave looks way more clean and running more smoothly.
Why is this comment section surprised this game got an 8? Thats a great score lol
@ShadLink what? Having an 8/10 score instead of a 9/10 is "trying to lower the average"? This just sounds borderline conspiratorial. There's no plot at Nintendo Life to lower the average critic score (and again, most of their recent reviews have been more or less in keeping with the general critical consensus). And if reading a review that doesn't even say the game is bad, average, or in the case of this game, just good, then yeah, I think you should avoid reading game reviews.
@uncleMike It's fair to complain about Nintendo Life's middling coverage of Fortune's Weave news, but I'm not sure if this issue really affects the review of the game. It's a review, not a hype report.
Read the entire review - thanks for publishing it! I haven’t played Fire Emblem in a really long time but this one is really appealing to me. I’m not planning to jump in tomorrow, but I will add it to my wish list.
Today I also learned that the ‘Pro’s and ‘Cons’ are listed as ‘Joys’ and ‘Cons’. Cheeky
trails in the sky second chapter is a 92 on metacritic..
@UpsideDownRowlet
My point was that the lack of coverage leading up to this review decreased my trust in the reviewer site's input. I never implied that I was revamping the definition of a Review to a "hype report" (whatever the hell that is... ?).
@repsahj yeah its called difference of opinion
@RiasGremory „not a bad game” is 6/10 by Nintendo Life standards, not 9/10.
I'm amazed that this is the lowest score I've seen
@Rooty I burned out on min maxing in the school non combat portions by the end and just couldn’t see myself doing another playthrough for the other three endings, the one button bypass for school bits probably helps with multiple playthroughs. Will try to restrain myself with this game.
@Bats1234 Have you met this population?
8/10 is still a good score, people, I wouldn't agonize over it
Baffled at some of these comments, honestly. Like, I don't know whether to laugh it off or just scream into the void.
Feel like this game would have to be an all-time misfire for me to not like it more than Engage. Absolutely loathed that game.
A hard-hitting review from NL? Am I dreaming? Still, respect.
Got the game early, and I have just finished the prologue. Its amazing, but... there is no dual audio! NANI!? I don't remember the last time I played a "Fire Emblem" game with English voices!
UPDATE: Ah, it is a free DLC pack from the eshop, it is not on the cartridge. That was a bit scary...
REAL UPDATE: Ah wait, there is no DLC pack for the JPN voice overs, you just have to forcefully quit the game because the option only shows up in the proper main menu. Why do they do this...
@Olliemar28
Considering it’s a vocal minority arguing over the smallest point, I’d go with the former.
NL integrity is fine. Game is great. Life will go on.
I mean reviewers are gonna be biased. This reviewer is no exception and beginning was already being blatantly biased about personally preferring Engage direction where they liked it more then 3H and this game is definitely way more closer to 3H then Engage thankfully.
So I can understand why Engage got a higher score over this on NL lol.
I’m more concerned about ZERO mention of how the game looks and run especially on handheld. Is it not actually gonna be 60 even in dock? Guess I have to wait for SwitchUp review for a more real review
Well that and the “less is more” buzzword mentality where having good amount of content = con in today world. Everybody just wants to be done with their game within 2 days like a typical Resident Evil lol
Funny how that garbage phrase was absent for games like Elden Ring, Elder Scrolls, Persona, etc where people logging 100+ hours is normal
@Max_the_German that's your opinion but others enjoyed it.
Yes, Jim gave Star Fox a 9!
And yes, most people would rate this game higher than 8!
Now let's move on.
As someone who has little desire to play turn-based combat games, how does the FH series stack up? I do own the most recent Mario RPGs from the past 5-6 years and found the aesthetic and general exploration to be appealing, with tolerable combat. Thanks in advance, and hope the NL community enjoys this new game in any case.
Oh.
Didn't know this thing was already coming out, figured it was at least two years away.
Anyway...here's hoping it's as good as Engage was/is, I doubt it though.
Lived Engage, 3 houses, and pretty much any fire emblem from the 3ds onward(basically after they removed permadeath). This sounds like more of the same which is perfect.
Was planning on waiting a bit, but pulled the trigger just now as the across the board reviews were excellent.
The gray haired chick reminds me a bit of Taarna.
@ShadLink “that reviewer is trying to lower the average”
Let‘s stop and think about this. Assuming that we’re talking about the first wave of reviews (released pretty much simultaneously once the embargo is lifted), then the reviewer has no idea what the average is when reviewing the game. Even without getting into why they would want to, they can’t possibly be “trying to lower the average” if they don’t know what it is to begin with.
And while we’re talking of averages, let’s also stop and consider exactly how far this review is from the Metacritic average of 89: 9 points. This apparently cause for concern. Now let us consider how far from average IGN’s perfect score is: 11 points.
If the goal is ‘averageness’, then it should be noted that IGN’s review is a more egregious outlier. But instead of being criticised, it is being held up as a shining example of what a ‘correct’ review looks like, despite being a worse offender in terms of ‘unaverageness’.
The only solid argument many people seem to be making is for more investment in basic numeracy.
Great,
that's 10 more Fire Emblem characters for the next Smash.
This doesn't read at all like an 8. I think the half point scoring system makes the most sense, so on NL I try to unround up or down a half point if the tone doesn't quite match. But this reads like at least a 9.
@helloim_anthony They're surprised it got an 8 because they read the review.
@Pillowpants "We knew about the fifth protagonist from the start, so why make it a point in the cons?"
Knowing about something doesn't make someone automatically like it.
Crazy to think i found this series cus i typed up on google nintendo games with romances similar to persona 3/5 and i found Three house.. read up about the lore and the inner fighting of eldergard vs dimitri vs seiros in the fandom. Bought the game as my first batch of switch 1 games (i have a switch 2 so my first nintendo system since gameboy sorry in advance). Played quite abit of 3 house beginning of this year and wished for a remastered. Only for fortunes to play its part and instead tell nintendo to give me a direct sequel with all the improvement i thought they should take 🤣. My fortunes indeed cus now i can binge play both 3house and this to see how the story of world lore flows. P.s loving fortune weaves so far
@RiasGremory I replied on your quote “wasn’t a bad game”. If you are interested in Nintendo Life’s Review Scoring Policy:
https://www.nintendolife.com/scoring
A 9/10 would be an “excellent” game. All what you said it that it’s “not bad”, thus 6/10.
I find Metroid Prime 4 “poor”.
@Max_the_German I have nothing against an 8 but the reviewer did show some bias towards this game by saying being over crowded which is ridiculous and making comparisons to three houses which had some issues wen it came too graphical and framerate which no one denies and meanwhile weave looks way more cleaner and well made because of switch 2 being way more powerful then the switch 1.....Like I said your entitled to your opinion about prime 4 but most enjoyed it
@Mando44646 Prepare to be more amazed! https://www.gfinityesports.com/article/fire-emblem-fortunes-weave-review-switch-2-a-gorgeous-step-in-the-wrong-direction
Always a bummer to see Nintendolife bring down a first party games metacritic score but at least it proves their not blindly biased!
@Misima If the content is bare bones minigames like whacking weed, fishing etc. then giving a worse score is justified.
repsahj wrote:
An "89" on MetaCritic, so anything from "8" to "10" would be within the range of consensus.
It did seem to me that over the years NL reviews would be on the generous/high side, compared to the MetaCritic score. As long as we're getting honest & learned opinions then I'm happy.
@MontyCircus I think it varies I find that NL often has a lower score on the higher average rated Nintendo games.
But a higher score on the ones with more middling ratings. If somethings getting rave reviews and loads of 9s and 10s I typically expect Nintendolife's review to be 1 or 2 points below lol
5 hours in and I have to say. Three Houses is still superior.
@Bahamut_GR Same with me. I was also surprised with, from my perspective, the relative low number of battles in Three Houses. At least in comparison to Awakening on 3DS which ws my most recently played FE game prior to Three Houses.
@Dalamar that killed my interest in the game.
It just felt like they tried to bloat this game with anything as much as possible.
Completely killed my mood. I just want cool and deep strategic battles, that's what FE is about.
As much as it pains me to say, I have not enjoyed a Fire Emblem game since Awakening. Fates, wasn't bad. But the newer two, Three Houses and Engage struggled to pull me in.
Judging from what I've read so far. If you're into Three Houses, this is the game for you next. If you're into Engage then you may not like this entry as much. Take the reviews with a pinch of salt, everything is subjective after all. Personally, I bought it and am loving it as much as three houses so far, loooong way to go to judge whether one is better than the other from my own point of view.
Oh God... This game... It's such a letdown. The training part is very boring and undercooked. I don't understand why they refuse to just do three houses again. The school was such a fun change of pace. Meanwhile the first section where you need to improve in-between missions is such a slog. It's harder to do everything as the map is even bigger and nothing is as straightforward. You can't just spend your time socializing and having meals and training and doing whatever. At least not yet. They make you go onto the map and the map isn't fun. The dungeons are not fun.
Honestly, I was blown away by the anime style... But the game straight up is terrible so far. Three Houses mops the floor with this game.
Hey so, I'm 3 hours in and It's just cutscenes
Like this could've just been an anime
Everyone save your money and watch the cutscenes on youtube because the experience is the same
Out of 3 hours I've spent maybe 20 minutes moving my character and most of that was in the sewers
There's only been about 10-15 minutes of battles too
Only played Cai's story so far so I'm hoping the other stories have gameplay but so far... Damn this objectively isn't even a game
A new reaction from my part.
Synced more time in it. And the farther you go in, the better this game gets.
You start with a long trial, and the getting used to the game parts. Where everything gets explained. (Maybe i shouldnt have chosen i am new haha)
But when the game actually hets deeper. Amazing! Love this game. The beginning, is lots of story telling and character development,which i love. The recruitment system is also dope.
Still a 9/10 from me.
@Dark-Luigi its not a JRPG
@RiasGremory I agree with the bias, I give you that.
But more is not always better. Already having played some hours and chapters this just makes me want to go back to other entries so far honestly.
Maybe three houses had just the right amount of activities outside of combat, and having much more of that + dungeons + clash battles which are a weird addition (How could those clash battles have already become boring by the 2nd day?).
So yeah, again I agree with the bias, but not with the More is More or assuming this is Three Houses but better on all aspects. So far the battle scenarios have been weaker and the additions outside of combat either overwhelming or boring.
Anyways I'll definitively keep going, but so far it has not clicked as much as TH
It's rare when NintendoLife is on the "lower" side of a Nintendo published game. Still a good score though.
Confirmed: It's super good.
I'm going to wait until I've played through this game before I criticize any reviews. That said, I'm enjoying it quite a bit so far. I started with Theodora as my first choice of the "four flames" or whatever. I'm not sure how much I'm going to like this game, but I find myself far more invested in the story - It seems that the characters and story have a little more depth to them than the last time around. I do believe that I will enjoy this game more than Engage, perhaps almost as much as Three Houses, but I will have to play through the game first before I can offer any verdict.
I can safely write that it is good, and that I do not regret my purchase for one second.
Edit - 10/5/26:
Now that I've spent some real time with the game, I'm confident in saying that I've already enjoyed it much more than Engage, and it will likely at least tie with, if not surpass Three Houses for me. I would even be willing to argue that Fortune's Weave is objectively better than both of those games, but a personal rating still boils down to taste anyway.
@repsahj maybe NL is right and others are wrong? 8 is far from being a bad score. always puzzles me fanboys who complain to reviewers that scores dont match their expectations. in the end its a personal opinion, and theres plenty of 8s and 7s given already (in metacritic I dont take into account unknown websites, they're usually not trustworthy)
The first showing of this had me hyped as all heck.
The second showing had me rather nervous.
Now I'm an hour in and ugh...
Three houses took a bit of effort to get into but the pay off was easily worth it and at least the characters and writing was interesting even if the gameplay wasn't quite there at the start.
Engage dropped the ball on the writing and characters but the gameplay was fantastic almost right out of the gate.
Granted I'm still in the prologue so hopefully things pick up once I get to the games but ugh. That s**t eating grin whilst proclaiming the sand to be.... Divine Sand! Yeah nah, can I have Sothis back please? =(
edit and why the heck does my mage want a gun? Why does my healer want an even bigger gun?! What happened at Intelligent Systems to cause this?!
This is AT LEAST a 9. This review is misleading
If you're no playing permadeath, you're not playing Fire Emblem. I liked the option to do play permadeath with, if I remember correctly 3 chances to undo a battle entirely in 3 houses (been to long and forgot). You can always replay or go to an earlier save if you want to but I quite like permadeath and find it very satisfying to make it through with only losing 1-2 people on the early game
I'm having trouble with the game. I gave it my all in Cai's path, recruited everyone I could, did all side quests and paralogues I could. Then I did Dietrichs and mopped up some of the stuff not done on Cai's. But damn I'm 70 hours into the game now. I started Theodora and I'm just completely burnt out at least on act 1. The busy work and samey stuff in the first act just grated on me.
I guess I'll either take a break or just move to act 2, but it feels like I'm missing out on a big part of the game if I do that. The game is WAY too big and unfocused imo. I've greatly enjoyed myself with it but damn I'm tired of doing the same things over and over with slight story differences
Also really wish they'd tone it down with all the dialogue. Just shut up and let me kill stuff
@Maxz I actually completely agree with that review from what I've played, 70 hours in
Even though I like to think I am a big Fire Emblem fan, I'm going to pass on this one.
In my opinion, the social mechanics were excessive in Three Houses. It felt like it was just wasting my time with unnecessary busywork. And needing to replay the game to see each path was just tedious.
This game seems just as bad, and I think I will just replay the GBA games instead.
@Maxz Thank you for sharing this review. It's great. The reviewer clearly states their preferences for Fire Emblem games (which happens to perfectly align with my preferences) in the beginning of the review. They also mentioned several things I never knew were in the game. They mentioned what elements may appeal to different types of fans.
And now I am very confident in permanently removing this game from my to-play list. I'm not going to potentially wait for a good sale. I am never going to play this game, and I can be happy about that decision. I'm not going to feel regret about not liking the popular thing. I'm going to accept that Fire Emblem has been sanding away it's niche elements to appeal to more mainstream audiences, and it's no longer for me. I am ok with this.
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