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نوفاك اتشمان@sh.wikipedia

However, our community is concerned about possible sock puppets and/or sleeper accounts. -
Where can I find the community discussion about these socking concerns? It would help to see the original conversation that led to this request. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 13:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
@XXBlackburnXx: Thank you for your question! The Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia currently doesn't have a local CheckUser policy, so formal on-wiki discussions about potential sockpuppetry are not a common practice. Typically, concerns and requests are brought directly to Meta. In this particular case, I initiated this request following a concern from a local bureaucrat, who contacted me off-wiki on this matter. On the other hand, we have had several cases of cross-wiki sockpuppetry in the past, especially from neighboring projects, and while I don't want to accuse a colleague, we need to check in any case. --Inokosni organ (talk) 13:31, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, but since no policy violation occurred on shwiki (and all provided evidence points to srwiki, over a very extended time period) this looks more like a {{fishing}} expedition than something else. Novak has already publicly disclosed their accounts and there's seemingly no basis (at least not declared in the request) that would necessitate a block for any of them on shwiki, so I don't see what a check would accomplish. Therefore  Declined. With a friendly note to please be more transparent about this process in the future. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 18:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Comment Comment @Inokosni organ and XXBlackburnXx: Hello, both my fellow South Slavic editor Inokosni organ and steward XXBlackburnXx, feel free to have me SRCU-ed absolutely anywhere and everywhere. As far as I'm aware, @Milicevic01 and MilicevicBot: my fellow Serbian Wikipedia editor Milicevic01 and @نوفاك اتشمان, Novak Watchmen, and FifthMILlenniumBot: that other Serbian & South Slavic user are physically 2 (two) different and separate people. Also, I should already have publicly disclosed & listed all of my accounts on my local user page. In addition, both of you (including that third, certain person as well, I guess), either individually and/or collectively, have my absolute, explicit, official and personal approval to contact the local Serbian Wikipedia CheckUsers, concerning this SRCU & sh.wiki matter. However, it should be noted that the sr.wiki CUs accept no public local CU-requests at all. Tyvm in advance, the fake Arab dude. --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 18:27, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Ok, it's all good for me.
I sincerely apologize with both for disturbing and for putting doubt on you. Best regards, --Inokosni organ (talk) 18:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
👍 --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Débora@pt.wikipedia

Normally we don't do checkuser for that reason, and since ptwiki has their local checkuser team, we can't do it unless there are special circumstances. --Sotiale (talk) 01:43, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Torbjørn Dahl@no.project

Regardless of whether there are other options, the current policy does not allow comparisons between temporary accounts and users; To be precise, we should not declare it publicly, because that would be tantamount to disclosing personal information. --Sotiale (talk) 01:46, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Yukitanooki@zh.wikipedia

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 11:37, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
It doesn't seem like there's anything else in their main nest. --Sotiale (talk) 11:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
 Confirmed Кломате on wikidata. --Sotiale (talk) 12:00, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
+  Confirmed Xenxoxo. --Sotiale (talk) 12:06, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Dr rajatsubhra@en.wikiversity

Perhaps if their patterns are similar, they are colleagues, or they used some clever trick. The data is not enough to declare them to be the same user(Unrelated Unrelated). --Sotiale (talk) 12:31, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

冷火羽@zh.wikipedia

Unfortunately, there is not enough information to draw any conclusions(Inconclusive Inconclusive). So, it's up to you whether you view it in good faith or not. --Sotiale (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
冷火羽 Did he log out of editing? Jackyming 12:28, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
There was no such activity. I'm curious, what is his or her main area of contribution? --Sotiale (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
main area of contribution : Recent death, Supercentenarians.
江鳥羽1227 Contribution areas/interests or 冷火羽 100% consistent with.
冷火羽 The common feature of the names of the puppet accounts created before is that they all contain the Chinese character "羽"/"雨".(w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/冷火羽/存檔) Jackyming 12:49, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
It is also confirmed that 冷火羽 used DexNaer, DexNair, 冷客 to edit recent death and supercentenarian related articles between late July and early August 2024.--SickManWP (talk) 12:55, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

1F6I6EMO@zh.wikipedia

I would like to know whether the impersonating user is created by the impersonated user himself. Jackyming 09:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Doing... XXBlackburnXx (talk) 09:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
@Jackyming: are you saying that you suspect 1F616EMO might be behind these accounts? So far it's been difficult to determine anything due to the extensive use of VPNs and different devices. I haven't found any sleepers yet, but I've come across many good-faith users, which makes this case more difficult than usual. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
They are bad-faith users impersonating (or attacking) 1F616EMO. It is not supposed that 1F616EMO is guilty. GZWDer (talk) 09:40, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
I believe that this request is fishing, the request is just to check are these impersonation accounts controlled by active users or 1F616EMO himself, but apparently we don't have any evidence of it or who's behind these acounts, I have declined the request in local, as in the process of SRG will usually check sleepers as well, thank you. aqurs 🍧 09:43, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
@Peterxy12: Please do not override local spi clerk, especially you having an ongoing topic ban on wp namespace in zhwiki, thank you. aqurs 🍧 09:28, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
I haven't found any sleepers or anything similar. So I'm pretty much Inconclusive Inconclusive. For the record: No checks on active users has been made. - XXBlackburnXx (talk) 09:50, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
First of all, can we be sure that these impersonation accounts were created and impersonated by the same person? Jackyming 09:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
I'd say that's unimportant. Without a particular suspect behind the accounts, it would be hard to distinguish operators from each other from the chaotic data. With an "extensive use of VPNs and different devices," the user behind might be able to forge technical parameters by combining VPNs and user-agent switchers, making investigation nearly impossible. (This has led me to think of zh:LTA:QCHM, but from the data of an anonymous account ~2025-16301-2 having identical behaviors, QCHM seems unrelated.) As MEATs are treated like one person (per enwiki Arbcom decision and local policy adoption), it's safe to close the case without knowing how many operators there are. 1F616EMO (on zhwiki) 16:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

微甜微酸微苦__微鹹@yue.wikipedia

Some users are also active in zhwiki, so we can check them there. GZWDer (talk) 17:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
On hold. --Sotiale (talk) 14:30, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Inconclusive Inconclusive 微甜微酸微苦__微鹹
  • Possible Possible 江马, 無名君子, 后男草, 地牛走陸

This alone is not enough to take action against them, and you need to consider their editing patterns when drawing conclusions. --Sotiale (talk) 15:14, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

@Sotiale : User:彳山一儿攵辛束 is Inconclusive Inconclusive/Possible Possible? Jackyming 15:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Milana.jav & Žarko.neon@bs.wikipedia

I'm not sure how you know that link, but anyway, bottom line is Likely Likely the users you're thinking of. --Sotiale (talk) 14:43, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment Comment Oh, tyvm! :D --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 19:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

2@no.wikipedia

@Xaosflux: The correct usernames are Idolybloom and Melaqui.Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 16:21, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
@Xaosflux Sorry about the added "s" at the end of both usernames in my text, they are written correct in List of users, where also the links are behind the usernames. 1000mm (talk) 00:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

 Confirmed: Idolybloom and HannaHanni. Unrelated Unrelated: Melaqui. Local wikis may of course nevertheless decide to block the unrelated account due to machine translations. --Johannnes89 (talk) 06:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Johannnes89. 1000mm (talk) 10:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Volcanores@no.project

 Confirmed Melaqui and Volcanores. Still no CU connection to the other two accounts (Idolybloom and HannaHanni). --Johannnes89 (talk) 21:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Thank you @Johannnes89. That makes Idolybloom and HannaHanni connected in the previous CU, and Melaqui and Volcanores connected in this.
I even warned Melaqui last night that new accounts continuing the same activity would be equally blocked. A sysop colleague reacted swiftly this morning and locally blocked just from suspected sock puppetry. 1000mm (talk) 21:32, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

འཕྲིན་ལས།@zh.wikisource

It seems a bit unclear what the request is. The discussion is a link to zhwikisource, but the title is wikisource(mulws). Since stewards, except for a very few, cannot read Chinese, if the discussion on zhwikisource is to explain the situation and you want to perform a check on mulws, you should translate the content to some extent and let the stewards know. This is a request for an investigation on mulws, and the situation is described on zhwikisource, correct? If so, please translate the content appropriately so that we can understand. Thanks! --Sotiale (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
First, the article s:zh:百字明咒短釋 was nominated for deletion by User:Zhxy 519 because it was a translation by AI and could possibly contain copyrighted content. Then User:银色雪莉 argued that AI cannot be seen as an author with copyright ownership and that the original text in Commons file File:ཡི་གེ་བརྒྱ་པའི་གོ་དོན་ཉུང་ངུ་།_ཤིང་པར།.pdf seems to be out of copyright, and that it remains to be determined that whether this translation is worth of being kept if there isn't another published Chinese translation. The user asked for users more experienced in religious text for help. Then I took a closer look at the text, finding out that the text doesn't look like a high quality translation of the original text but rather just usual AI-generated content. I suggested that the text can be exported to Wikiversity but the Wikiversity administrator User:Ericliu1912 declined to import it. Finally I noticed that all these content, including the original Commons file File:ཡི་གེ་བརྒྱ་པའི་གོ་དོན་ཉུང་ངུ་།_ཤིང་པར།.pdf, are just recently uploaded by this group of users. This group of users publish the same topic in multiple Wikimedia projects, including Old Wikisource, Commons, Wikidata, bowiki, and enwikisource. None of these wikis have yet to verify the content published by this group of users independently, because very few people can actually read original text in Tibetan. Midleading (talk) 09:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
@Midleading I've fixed your request per context Lemonaka (talk) 02:18, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
  •  Confirmed འཕྲིན་ལས། and KarunaTS
  • Unrelated Unrelated Pecha-Gade

It appears that Pecha-Gade has other accounts on a few wikis, but I am not sure if they are abuse or not, and they are not related to the above accounts, so I will not list them here. --Sotiale (talk) 13:53, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

夏土贤@zh.wikipedia

Just right now we got the new account User:格灵深瞳 appeared and this one pretty looks a duck test case, so please check that as well for confirming and sleepers. aqurs 🍧 14:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Please consider do an LWCU, thanks. Lemonaka (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Just right now we got the new account User:下是德国 appeared. Jackyming 13:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Just right now we got the new account User:Manchelia appeared.Jackyming 16:51, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Some minor update on the list of users section, I believe it's kinda obvious right now so just requesting for check sleepers for now as last check was quite a while, please see if range-block if possible, thanks. aqurs 🍧 17:56, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
  •  Confirmed Mafalda7474, 挖大粪的庄稼活, Madawang, 精神抖擞大无畏, 下是德国, 格灵深瞳, Manchelia, 都市打斗, 小顾朗, 太史慈零, Qfgdfvf

--Sotiale (talk) 14:08, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Piano08647@zh.wikipedia

{{Declined}} Withdraw, the administrator does not need to pay attention to this application.This person has no right to transfer here to apply for Checkuser. Jackyming 11:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
@Jackyming: How so? There are no requirements for request filers. A09|(pogovor) 12:59, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Local regulations do not allow him to transfer it here by himself for application. Jackyming 13:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for your elaboration.--A09|(pogovor) 13:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
C.c. @Aqurs1 @Peterxy12 . Jackyming 11:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

@Peterxy12: you'll need to go through the regular SPI process at zh:维基百科:傀儡調查 instead of filing checkuser requests directly with stewards. Only zhwiki SPI clerks can do that. If you keep bypassing the process, restrictions might follow. Thanks. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 13:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I endorse this request as a zhwiki SPI clerk. My apologies for expressing that this may go through to SRCU without actually forwarding the request, causing misunderstandings. --LuciferianThomas 01:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
I must note that Nongzhisheng is no longer active on zhwiki due to the block, but is very much active on enwiki. I don't know if stewards can do anything about this locally stale account in this case, but I'll still endorse the listing in case something can be done. LuciferianThomas 01:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
  •  Confirmed 遺留的相遇, Nono9394, 怕滑落地
  • Unrelated Unrelated Piano08647

First of all, since the above accounts are not from the same group, it is difficult to conduct further investigation as it is not known who Nongzhisheng is. --Sotiale (talk) 14:19, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

黄冰楠@zh.wikipedia

  •  Confirmed 茶圣, 美海军舰载机.

--AramilFeraxa (talk) 08:03, 29 July 2025 (UTC)