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If this edit is neutral

Please I'd like to ask the community regarding this edit on the Osu caste system entry if that edit looks neutral or biased following how the sentences were changed and rephrased, because the editor kept calling it a "neutral edit". (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 08:28, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

@Mbataw: I looked at the history of the Osu caste system article and the same content has been added and removed four times, which is a Wikipedia:edit war, even if it happened over weeks rather than 24 hours. I suggest looking at Wikipedia:dispute resolution and starting a discussion on the article talk page focussed on the content. I saw you posted on Dolpina's talk page, but that did not resolve the dispute and they removed your post, which is allowed on their user talk page.

I looked at the edit and it had several sources and may or may not be an improvement to the article. TSventon (talk) 10:16, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

This dispute has also been discussed and not resolved at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1234#Persistent disruptive edits and making up false reasons and accusations of "systematic hoax" by Mbataw. TSventon (talk) 10:28, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

I see your points, but the few period of time I've interacted with the user, I don't see them willing to cooperate. Just as I left a message on their talk page and regarding the ANI which was unresolved.

Here is another one on Traditional marriage in Igbo culture where they kept adding "citation needed" templates on specific entries even when the sources cited at the ending verifies those claims. It was also discussed on the talk page but they kept reverting. (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 14:20, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately dispute resolution on Wikipedia is quite cumbersome as there are no managers to take the final decision. There are admins, but they focus on behaviour, not content.

Looking at Osu caste system, you and Dolpina are edit warring about whether it still exists. I know nothing about the subject, but it might be worth discussing a more nuanced lead, as with Caste system in India. TSventon (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

I cited all my claims, all in neutral language, but if you look at his edit history Mbataw seems to have a bone to pick with me and always seems to gatekeep what he feels are igbo articles. After he was unbanned, I told him why that was bad and not productive for Wikipedia. Hopefully he has seen reason. Dolpina (talk) 17:35, 6 October 2026 (UTC)

I really hope your comment here is of good faith because your tone and language seems otherwise. Best! (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 17:42, 6 October 2026 (UTC)

Everything I say and say here are in good faith. I cant lie on what I feel and patterns that may be occuring, that will be pretence not in good faith. Hopefully you don't have such bias and if you do, you have fixed or are fixing it, thanks. All I do is sourced, its best to look at sourced content and facts, not emotions, personal issues or claims of neutrality that isn't there. Nice talk. Dolpina (talk) 18:03, 6 October 2026 (UTC)

Margaret Owen disambiguation

Its the 1st time that it happens to me that I didnt find in Wikipedia something about an important person. Recently there was in the news that Margaret Owen was recently arrested just for displaying a cardboard sign. She has an OBE for her important contributions to human rights. https://honours.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/stories/margaret-owen-obe/ In the margaret owen disambiguation page looks like she is not there Margaret_Owen Im too novice to say if its an error in the disambiguation page or the page about her directly does not exist, HELP !! Maverick528 (talk) 01:39, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

@Maverick528: The only mention I could find is this line in 2011 New Year Honours#Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE):

• Margaret Ann, Mrs. Owen. For services to Human Rights, particularly Widows Overseas.

A single line in a long list is usually not enough to be included in a disambiguation page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:12, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

If she made important contributions to human rights, it seems very likely that those would have been reported in some news media, appropriate journals, etc., and of course reports about her arrest in reputable newspapers would probably count towards notability. You need to keep looking for sources on which an article can be based.

(Disambiguation pages only list existing articles, not additional people with no articles as yet. List articles may include people who don't yet have an article but are good candidates for one, in which case they can be red linked.)

A casual online search on Margaret Ann Owen OBE yielded a first page of items specific to her, so I think it likely she qualifies for an article: the Women in Red Project may be interested. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230./195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 00:48, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

Its full of mentions of this person out there, for example in BBC (I guess you can trust BBC news?)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c933kx42np4xo

And the United Kingdom does not give the OBE award to "random ppl".

I think there are biographies of "less important" ppl here in wikipedia, so Im a bit surprised that the biography of this woman is not here ...... Maverick528 (talk) 01:08, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

Has a major publishing house put out a biography of her? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:32, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

That BBC article contains one sentence that merely mentions her name and otherwise says nothing at all about her. Surely there must be media coverage that discusses her in more detail? If not, it does not seem likely that she meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. We need sources that actually say something substantial about her, not merely mention her name. CodeTalker (talk) 05:34, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

more personal info can be found here =

https://www.widowsforpeace.org/about/founder/

and here=

https://www.9brchambers.co.uk/our-people/margaret-owen-obe/

Im not doing any extensive online research, I only originally wanted to point out that this bio is missing, if she is "wikipedia worthy" or not, I dont know but I suppose there are more qualified ppl than me here, I spent 2 hours trying to figure how to make a request for inclusion en the Woman in red project but I coudnt..... Maverick528 (talk) 14:17, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

@Maverick528 Sometimes, there are subjects about whom an article could be written, but no volunteer has taken it upon themselves to create and submit a draft.

Editors here are all volunteers. There is no "editorial board" that looks for articles that are "missing". A volunteer has to, first, be interested in the subject, second, understand the complex requirements for creating an article in Wikipedia, and third, be able to find independent, reliable, published sources that talk about the person in depth.

"Important" people usually, but don't always, have independent publications that write about them in depth.

Then, that volunteer can start the process of creating a draft, with appropriate references, to be submitted. David10244 (talk) 04:01, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Hamam al-Hammami (Omani pilot)

Hamam al-Hammami (Omani pilot)

I created this article based on a topic that is currently trending due to a recent incident. I’d like to hear your views and get input from other contributors as well. Do you think this is an appropriate topic for an article? Official06 (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

@Official06, did you use an LLM to compose this article? There are several strong WP:AISIGNS here. Using AI to generate content for the English Wikipedia is not allowed: please see WP:NOLLM.

I'm also pretty sure you shouldn't have made this article in the first place, sorry about that. The Flydubai incident is related to a contentious topic and those can only be edited about by extended-confirmed users. Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

(Personally I feel that having an article on this topic is premature, and any worthwhile info could be added to the main Flydubai Flight 1073 page—but I'm not a regular editor on current events, so don't take my word for that.) Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 19:08, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

Yes you are correct my mistakes

But its not LLM Official06 (talk) 19:45, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

@Official06 Usually, any topic you can call "trending" is not a Wikipedia topic. We wait until "the dust has settled" and the trend has worn off.

Also, probably more important in this case, we usually reject articles about someone who committed one crime and was never known for anything else. There are probably exceptions if the person became permanently notable - still being written about many years later - but this doesn't seem like one of those exceptions. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:28, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

Technical function of watchlists after periods of absence

Hello! I'm curious about the functionality of watchlists upon returning from a period of absence longer than the maximum length of time after which such a watchlist can show edits made on a certain day. Less obscurely, watchlists show the edits made to a page within a maximum of three days by default; after adjusting one's personal preferences, this maximum can be expanded to 30 days. But this limit seems to produce the necessary limitation of hiding changes made on a day after such a period, which may be a common occurrence when speaking of relatively obscure, low-traffic, or time-sensitive pages one is still interested in. That problem would be exacerbated for someone who must take correspondingly long periods of leave for whatever off-wiki duties to which they're obliged to attend, presumably making them miss the opportunity to see those changes after that maximum 30-day window has passed.

Do watchlists truly function like this, or is there some resurfacing of unseen changes after the set maxima? If not, how would someone affected by this in the manner previously illustrated notice such edits instead? To explain my question more concretely, suppose an editor is busy offline and can only be active in spurts separated by several months. If they were to have, say, some time-sensitive discussion page on their watchlist whose latest edit ran back more than a month, would they lose the technical ability to see that when they return to check their watchlist? I'm hoping an editor who frequently interacts with watchlists or, better yet, currently has some forgotten items on theirs can provide some insight into this. Thanks! Salmon of Knowledge (talk) 04:05, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

@Salmon of Knowledge: The watchlist has a maximum of 30 days as you say. The watchlist is based on RecentChanges which has the same limit. The MediaWiki default in mw:Manual:$wgRCMaxAge is 90 days. Wikimedia wikis set it to 30 days with $wgRCMaxAge = 30 * 86400; in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php, probably for performance reasons. I played around with something wich might be of use.

Copy-paste up to 250 page names from Special:EditWatchlist/raw to Special:MyPage/sandbox in the source editor. Click the magnifying glass icon to the right of the toolbar. Enter (.*)(\n) in "Search for" and this in "Replace with":

|-$2|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:$1}}||[[$1]] ([{{fullurl:$1|action=history}} hist])$2|-$2|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Talk:$1}}||[[Talk:$1]] ([{{fullurl:$1|action=history}} hist])$2

Check "Treat search string as a regular expression" and click "Replace all". Copy this to the top of the page:

and this to the bottom:

|}